How good was Carl froch and is he a p4p UK boxer

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Richmondva804, Mar 20, 2023.

  1. Richmondva804

    Richmondva804 New Member Full Member

    Jun 1, 2022
    As an American boxing fan I never got how good Carl forch was I saw him lose against ward and when he ko George groves in front of 80000 but never thought he would be in the hall of fame
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  2. MantraNo10

    MantraNo10 New Member banned Full Member

    Feb 27, 2023
    Brilliant fighter., Very good. Power, chin, toughness, stamina, underrated skills, always exciting to watch. Fought all the best fighters in his division didn't duck anyone, and beat almost of them apart from the great Andre Ward. 2 time world champ, unified belts. One of the best Uk fighters ever, and deserved inclusion to the hall of fame.
  3. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 15, 2013
    Froch was a quality fighter. Will go down in history as one of the best to come out of the British Isles.
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  4. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 28, 2018
    What an entertaining fighter Froch was, would love if one of him was around in the UK today - exactly what boxing needs.
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  5. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 25, 2005
    He was an over achiever. Solid skills allied with toughness and good attitude meant he had a great career. So he's one of our best based on his ring achievements. But he wasn't an elite level fighter, which isn't a knock because not many are. The question people always ask is who would win out of him and Calzaghe? I think Calzaghe would've made him look quite daft to be honest.
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  6. SeanB1

    SeanB1 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    Sep 8, 2022
    I agree. I do admire Froch as he came over crippling confidence issues in his early career, almost disabling levels of self doubt. It's amazing what he achieved in light of that. Due to his low hands stance I think people sometimes forget he was a good boxer too, you don't medal at world ams if you can't box. I think he can be a bit of a wally but who can't. And I am not sure if you know but he fought in front of 80,000 people....
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  7. MantraNo10

    MantraNo10 New Member banned Full Member

    Feb 27, 2023
    Mikkel Kessler
    Lucien Bute
    Arthur Abraham
    Jean Pascal
    Jermain Taylor
    George Groves x 2
    Andre Dirrell
    Glen Johnson
    Robin Reid

    What a resume! Beat them all virtually back to back as well.
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  8. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 6, 2014
    P4P is irrelevant with Froch. I loved him as a fighter. He wasn’t the best but he was very tough, fit and fought everyone.
  9. Skyver

    Skyver Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 29, 2015
    It’s easier to appreciate a fighter like Froch now due to all the you tubers and prima donna’s involved in the game now.He was a top fighter and athlete.
  10. BoxingAddick

    BoxingAddick Active Member Full Member

    Nov 28, 2021
    Froch fought all the best and was very under rated as a technician, yes his style was brawly but if you analyse his fights you can see some really clever stuff in how he was able to turn fights with traditionally more skilled orthodox style fighters ij to "brawls". No shame in losing to Ward and probably gave Ward one of his toughest fights (even if it was a clear Ward win). Also it helps that his style was incredibly entertaining.
  11. BoxingAddick

    BoxingAddick Active Member Full Member

    Nov 28, 2021
    Kind of agree, he is under rated for his skill set as it was unorthodox, one of our best SMWs but yeah hard to make a p4p argument
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  12. BoxingAddick

    BoxingAddick Active Member Full Member

    Nov 28, 2021
    He was elite level though ? He fought the best he could and bar the loss to Ward beat them all. I tend to agree that Calzaghe would of beat him but worth remembering when their was appeal for it only one of them wanted it.
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  13. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 13, 2023
    Great fighter, tough as mails and goes down with Robin Hood as one of Nottingham's finest legends.

    Ward had his number and I think he would have struggled against a prime Joe Calzaghe, another one of the British greats.
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2023
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  14. rezzer

    rezzer Active Member Full Member

    Feb 11, 2009
    Also, and I might be wrong, he didn't pull out of fights. Unlike today's fighters he wanted to fight. Even the volcano exploding didn't stop him going to Scandinavia to fight Kessler. As much of a throwback as you can get these days.
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  15. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    A lots of truths already been said. Froch was a legit fighter and gives any SMW a tough night. Would have liked to have seen him fold Chavez Jnr before he called it a day but hey ho.

    Always thought it was weird the way he went into the Bute fight as the underdog and people talking like it was retirement if he lost. Banjos him and probably has the biggest nights of his career afterwards.

    I think due to his style being a bit ugly at times he was often overlooked. Many tipped Abraham to beat him and then he schooled AA.

    The Bute fight is a good example of how good he can be technically, watch Bute fire the left uppcut into the body early in the fight and Froch blocked it and smiled. He knew what Bute wanted to do and stopped it then found hurtful combinations with good variety (which weren't always present in his early days) to put Bute on the back font and then close the show.

    Top class fighter...While I think most people would think Calzaghe would win the fight if it had ever happened. Eubank V Froch, or Froch V Benn could have been fights for ages.
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2023
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