how good was chris eubank?

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  1. Bulldog24

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    Eubank dealt with Watson more comfortably than McCallum in the first nine rounds of the first fight, before he totally ran out of strength from the weight-making. Watson landed a lot of right hands on Mike that he couldn't touch Eubank with. And Eubank slotted in a lot more HEAD shots on Watson than McCallum did.
     
  2. Bulldog24

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    Nobody stops Nigel Benn 'easily' my friend. Are you on another planet?
     
  3. Bulldog24

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    Bizarre. Eubank won nearly every round against Malinga on Watt's scorecard with his head clearly and understandably elsewhere. Malinga couldn't lay a glove on him.

    He landed at will on Thornton, boxed out of his skin for the first four. Jones couldn't touch Thornton with that 30-punch flurry, the referee only stopped it because Thornton couldn't throw back after dislocating his shoulder. And this was a post-retirement Thornton of course. Granted Jones had mind-blowing one-shot power with those leaps.
     
  4. Bulldog24

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    Jones struggled to land anything on Malinga til the 6th. He just couldn't open him up, and resorted to feints and got in one leaping left uppercut.
     
  5. Bulldog24

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    To answer the question he was about equally as good as McCallum, Toney and Jones based on performances against common opponents. He slightly out-performed Toney against Thornton and Nunn against Rocchigiani. And they were the best lb4lb fighters in history and made their names against each other in the States.
     
  6. Bulldog24

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    It's actually the other way round, the Americans rate his ability much higher than Brits.
     
  7. Bulldog24

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    That doesn't make any sense, because he won every time!
     
  8. lencoreastside

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    He got the nod every time. Different thing entirely.
     
  9. Bulldog24

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    Professional judges from the States scored in Eubank's favour each time, because they score on accuracy. Most Brits think walking in all night with your hands up throwing lots is the only way to win a round it seems.

    The only fight he should've lost was Dan Schommer in South Africa.
     
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  10. MAJR

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    On his day Eubank would be a difficult fight for anybody between Middleweight and Light-Heavy and was able to be competitive at Cruiserweight, though I think that was a bit beyond him and wouldn't have sustained success at that weight.

    As a Middleweight he had one-punch KO power but that didn't carry as well into Super Middleweight, he often fought to the level of his opponent and put some very bad efforts which he was lucky to escape with the win, but against great opponents he tended to deliver great fights. It was probably impossibly to knock out a fighting fit Eubank.

    He likely wasn't good enough to be ranked alongside the greatest ever fighters but he's only a tier or two below them
     
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    Collins caught Eubank at the end of a year during which Eubank had fought 6 fight and 67 rounds, and even then was in a war to win the first fight.

    The problem for Eubank was not that he was outclassed or exposed, it was that he was outworked. He landed the cleaner and more accurate shots, but Collins was throwing far more punches and landing more. Both men hit the canvas during the fight, both scored knockdowns, but this was infamously the fight in which Eubank took his foot off the gas and sat back after knocking Collins down early in the 10th and let him recover. It was a damn close and hard fought battle.

    Their second encounter would result in an even closer fight that was won by Collins via SD. It was not quite the same high drama affair but was decided by the same thing as the first, Collins' workrate. He was a much busier fighter who threw a lot much punches and overwhelmed Eubank on sheer volume alone, but Eubank made it close by being more accurate and landing the more telling blows.

    Likely, Collins would always be a boogeyman for Eubank just because of his superior workrate, but anyone who watches those fights can see how competitive they were, to claim they "exposed" Eubank is ridiculous.
     
  12. Ike-Man

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    Your either blind or stupid, Jones toyed with Malinga throughout, even sticking his tongue out at him when he was playing with him.
     
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    So did Sven Ottke, but that doersn't he deserved to win everytime, just like Eubank clear as day lost the Ray Close I, Benn II and Schommer fights yet got gift decisions to remain unbeaten, hell one judge even gave him Collins II although he was virtually shut out.
     
  15. lencoreastside

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    Ottke prob the most blatant case ever. While not as blatant, Eubank always got the decision or draw in many fights that could have gone the other way. Also in many cases the opposition wasn't anything special. People forget this. Younger fans may not be aware of it at all. But it's true. Not knocking him...but n the interest of truth and balance the FULL story needs to be heard.