how good was chris eubank?

no becuase these men were to brave and accomplished they didnt need to fight him...eubank could beat them though.

 

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G-Man was ranked P4P no6 or higher when Benn beat him. Benn also clocked Barkley in 1 round who was coming off a very close contest with P4P no1 (or2) Nunn and would go on to go 10 with P4P no1 Toney and beat Hearns twice. So Benn was a top10 P4P fighter at his best and Eubank beat him and racked up many defenses. Eubank also beat Watson twice and Rochiagani

Now the US magazines may not have rated Eubank/Benn top10 P4P but they clearly were around there peak. Although I'd pick Toney/RJJ over both

Cotto however has not beat a top10 P4P fighter ever

 

i swaer it was nunn who was looking to unfiy with the winner

 

Didnt you see the Benn-Eubank 'audience with', they had Toney on being his typical classless self.

 

Spot on

 

Eubank and benn in the 1990's were in renaissance period for britsh/ irish boxing because u had watson, collins and even piper who gave benn hell.

 

Cotto has beaten Mosley and Judah as well as a host of other decent fighters and the method in which he has beaten them has been through classy disection rather then dodgy split decisions which made up a large part of Eubanks career.

I'm not putting them down they were wonderful fighters but to suggest that they would have beaten Jones and co is simply ridiculous.

 

Well I thought Eubank had a draw against watson in the first fight and that is why they had a second fight. Eubank had a decision against him the first steve collins fight how he lost that have to knocking collins on his arse three times.

 

You're right, but Toney was just brought onto the show, there wasn't any actual contractual discussions with him as he was then under Arum's wing.
You may remember Michael Nunn was at ringside and ITV's Gary Newbon even asked for his analysis of how the fight was going. Benn-Eubank II was co-promoted by Warren and King, who had Nunn under contract.

 

Not to forget Herol Graham and Chris Pyatt, they were pretty handy too.

As for Eubank, at any other time or weight he would have been head and shoulders better than anything in Europe. He gets a bit underrated as he is always and will always be talked about in the same breath as Benn and Watson. Fact is all 3 were the real deal and helped start the Euro dominance of the so called weak SMW division. It is so so rare for 1 small country to produce 3 world class fighters at the same weight at the same time but it happened. The only thing I can compare that to is Coe, Ovett and Cram at middle distance running.

Yeah he had 3 or 4 iffy verdicts, but much of his art was trying to do just enough to knick a round and no more. He was immensly strong, good but not great punch, great chin, great defense, very awkward and a true warriors heart. Any stamina deficiencies he may have had were offset by his ability to take a rest and come back - he only ever ran out of gas in true wars where anyone would have. He was never beaten as a middle weight.

After the tragic end to the Watson rematch (one of his iffy verdicts was his win in the first) he lost the will to batter a hurt opponent and lost fights in his later career because of it. He had Collins and Tompson in deep deep trouble and just stood back... in both cases losing a decision where he could have won by stoppage.

Of today's SMW crop, JC would just outwork him to a clear UD but other than that there isnt anyone who he couldnt beat, Kessler included - though that could be a close one.

 

Very good fighter, but he never really tried to go after the likes of Toney, Jones and Hopkins. He openly admitted he was in it for the money, and thus would not go to America for the big fights when he was making a load in Britain against the best Brits/bums.

He did fight some really good fighters however, Watson, Benn and Collins were all very good. Just no high profile Americans.

 

Very true.

I've read that only Tyson earnt more than him in a 5 year period around Eubank's peak.

 

Cotto has yet to face his McCellan and a 36yo Mosley and a Judah who hadn't won for 2years don't count.

As for Eubank I think he was a bit more trigger shy after ruining Watsons life. He did have those SDs and close calls BUT these were probably past prime or not Eubank on form. Many also feel Eubank beat Collins for what its worth.

Your right about Jones Jr but I doubt anyone in history 175 or below could beat RJJ. As for Toney he'd be favourate against both the Brit boys BUT Toney put in his share of poor performances and has a gift or 2 on his record

 

For me his highs would be his dramatic fights with Nigel Benn and his lows the Michael Watson tragedy during their rematch - apparently Eubank considered quitting boxing after that.

Can recommend his autobiography - was a fascinating read and gives you an insight into the man outside of boxing too.

 

LOL; yes ask John Jarvis

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