How good was Felix ''Tito'' Trinidad ?!

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  1. skandinavija

    skandinavija New Member Full Member

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    What is your opinion about Tito?

    He has the longest champion regimes in welterweight (IBF welterweight champ from 1993 to 1999)

    Felix vs Oscar de la Hoya was probably his biggest match.

    I love to watch Tito's fights, and I am really keen on his style!
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    An offensive machine. Beautiful technique, stunning power in both hands, and a great combination puncher.

    It isn't hyperbole to say I think he was one of the most aesthetically pleasing and entertaining fighters of his generation.

    Other posters can expand on his flaws, but he didn't have great feet. Most of the knockdowns he suffered seemed to be balance related rather than punch resistance issues.
     
  3. skandinavija

    skandinavija New Member Full Member

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    Great words!
     
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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He is vastly underrated by many at welterweight, a division in which he never last a fight ...
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I agree with this.

    I think his path to victory against a Thomas Hearns at 147lbs, for example, is fairly obvious and not insurmountable by any means.
     
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  6. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could be outboxed but NO ONE ever out punched him. He was an entertaining ass beater with power in both hands, and great condition.
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A savage wrecking machine of a fighter who also had a never back down mindset. Good stamina, accurate puncher and crushing power in both hands along with having a devastating left hook. As most have already said his slower footwork was his weakness and also sometimes off balance, which made him more vulnerable to getting outboxed. He was also a good technical boxer puncher at 147 but seemed to fall more in love with his power and became more one dimensional as he moved up.

    One of the most entertaining fighters of his era.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He's as well-roundedly good h2h as you can ask for a welterweight to be without them being historically great in any one department.
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Do you not think Trinidad was one of the hardest hitting Welterweights of all time, mate? The only three guys at Welter to go the distance with him once he became champion were Camacho, Hoya, and Whitaker, three guys who don't get knocked out.

    I would argue that in terms of two-fisted, one punch power, he's historically great at 147.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That's fair. I was thinking his power was on the bubble in between very good and great, with some distance between himself and Hearns & the Sugar Rays (and maybe Curry). I was also lumping in Jackson and Norris as potentially blocking him out from a top 5 but that was my brain going more welter-adjacent; looking strictly at 147lbs, yeah, he probably is right up there around the very top.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Hugely entertaining!
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There's presently a thread circulating in General about DLH being asked whose punches felt hardest to him. Quartey was his nomination, and I recall in past interviews that he put Mosley close behind. Tito would then be third in his personal experience (which further informed my initial reticence to call him a historically great puncher, as there was some contemporary debate about whether he was even the hardest of his own welterweight era) - but that could be sour grapes over the result, much akin to PBF citing DeMarcus Corley as his trickiest fight rather than what may seem the more obvious answer, JLC.
     
  13. McGrain

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    A withering, loose-limbed puncher with talent to burn but certain defensive frailties, his destruction of the excellent Oba Carr, then ranked #6, is perhaps the most instructive contest of his career. He boxed with the abandon only the true puncher knows, his job to engender exchanges that he would inevitably dominate, primarily with perhaps the best left-hook the division has seen this side of Robinson. This approach carried with it dangers and after a cagey opening round those dangers were underlined by a Carr right hand that deposited him on the seat of his trunks. Trinidad, lethal off the canvas, boxed back steadily, using shooting straight right hands and right uppercuts to systemically break his brave opponent down, stopping him in eight - that's gorgeous.

    The Joe Louis axiom “he can run but he can’t hide” can be applied as earnestly to Tito Trinidad, and that is the highest compliment I can pay him.

    Buuuuuut, although he emerged from welterweight supposedly unbeaten, the competition he faced here was mostly underwhelming. The "win" over De La Hoya aside, his highest ranked opponent was the near-corpse of Pernell Whitaker and these two fights aside, his record against opponents ranked in the top five is 0-0.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Sorry, meant to say at best third, although I can't say as I recall Osc ever giving him even that much credit. :lol:
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Obviously only DLH will know whether he is being sincere or not by naming Quartey and not Trinidad, but it's worth noting a couple of things. Firstly, Trinidad didn't connect nearly as well or as consistently as Quartey did in their respective fights with DLH. Secondly, it's not unusual for fighters to be dishonest when answering questions like this. Pacquiao said DLH had the fastest feet of all his opponents, for example.

    Speaking of Quartey, I really need to watch more of him.
     
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