Yey but he only did that for2 or 3 rounds!!! He put on a clinic before that. THe decision pisses me off 11 years later:twisted::fire
Tito had a Pacquiao-like run, only it was shorter. I was ready to rank him very high in the ATG list..until the Hopkins fight. One thing is losing every round to Hopkins but another thing is getting exposed to have illegal wraps. This is really something big to me, because Tito whose arms are so thin (and not muscular at that) packed unbelievable power. To me, theillegal wraps helped him in his previous wins (Reid, Vargas, Joppy). Also losing every single round to Wright just solidified what we all suspected the DLH robbery - that Tito couldn't deal with a skilled fighter.
You mean he somehow ironically emerged from a controversial decision to become overrated as some kind of unstoppable force? Just kidding, I'm bored so I'm hatin' :good Kinda.
I agree for the most part. I enjoy watching him fight (****ing DKP took down the numerous stuff I put of him on youtube), but I think his resume of wins is often overrated. He gets props for being consistent as a title-holder and winning, but it was more of a quantity-over-quality thing. His best wins were probably Carr & Campas, solid unspectacular contenders. I didn't feel Tito beat DLH and the Whitaker fight was a decent win, with Pea being at that stage in his career as he was. He had a nice brief run at 154. While I was never all too high on Reid, I thought Vargas was a very good fighter and that was Tito's best win. Not really sure how Tito fares against Forrest and Mosley at 147 though. I can certainly see him beating them, especially Mosley going too brawl happy with the monster-hitting Tito, but still, I think they are tough fights to call.
Tito was about to get ko'd against Vargas Fernado was taking him apart in systamatically beautiful fashion,until the lowblows to weaken him and then the heavy shots to ruin Vargas career,i never liked him after that,and his warrior status dropped considerably to me.ODH gets no credit he ran like Carl Lewis and lost all his big fights,as of right now i dont know how to rate Tito,I only know what type of fighters he would fair well against and what type of fighter he would'nt fair well against.
No it doesnt that **** is heavily biased towards Hoya.... ------------ As for the thread itself, Tito was a great 147 and 154lber, period. He has his strengths and weaknesses, and will match up horribly with some fighters, and great with others, just like every other fighter out there just about. However, all in all, he was a great and dominant fighter. Two fisted power, REAL power.... not just heavy hands, REAL power, the type that it looked like he would kill someone sometimes. Stamina for days, the will to win, aggressive and proved himself time and time again against good fighters, usually ending the fight in dramatic fashion and leaving these good fighters busted and beaten men, seperating himself entirely from their class of fighter.
How was it biased towards ODLH? It was stating facts not lies or exaggerations if anything he didnt mention that 2 of those losses (Tito,MosleyII) were flat out robberies. Under losses he also didnt mention Titos loss to Jones? yey i know Tito was past it but so was Jones. He mentioned ODLH loss to Manny but Titos to Jones? Explain to me how is list is biased?
If he were to list tito and mosley as flat out robberies, then he can go ahead and put down the sturm fight as a flat out robbery. It works both ways. Listing guys like Paez (complete size mismatch) and Campas under Hoyas wins, and then completely disregarding Titos win over a young, dangerous, same sized and undefeated opponent like Reid? And there is no reason that the loss to roy should be listed... nobody being objective would bring that up. Roy was much bigger, much faster, more powerful, and had every possible advantage i can think of.... and was the overwelming favorite to win on top of that. The fight was a farce given Titos inactivy (almost THREE years out of the ring) and size. anyways, in retrospect i suppose i shouldnt have said heavily biased, but id like to know why guys like Campas is counted for Hoya as some notable win, but Reid isnt for Trinidad.
I didnt notice the Reid omission and yey i agree with you that was a great win. As for Yori Boy why shouldnt he be mentioned? He was on the downside but still a dangerous foe. As for Paez its not ODLH fault he was such a monster sized Lw, i was at that fight and at the time many thought this could be a real test for the up and coming ODLH. I remember winning 20$ from my friends dad on this fight. You dont count the Jones fight but you expect us to count the Hopkins(much bigger) or Pac fight(drained zombie) against ODLH? PS i agree with you the Sturm fight could have went the other way. But his fights with Tito and MOsley II should be wins.
He was a very good welterweight, but a big part of his style relied on pressure and his size advantage over most of his opponents, similar to Ike Quartey, who probably had a better jab but wasnt as good with his power shots. Tito had a good jab, great lefthook and a decent righthand, but his movement and defense were not great, and he really did start to look like an ordinary fighter as he moved up in weight.
I wouldnt say Reid was a dangerous opponent or a big powerful 54 pounder, in fact he was quite the opposite. He was very green at the time had very few fights even though he held a title, and was really not ready for a fighter like Trinidad. THe problem with Reid was that he had the droopy eyelid, and his promoters wanted a big fight for him before he was forced out of the sport. Typical Dan Goosen who never really did a good job handling fighters career besides securing them decent paydays.