how good was john l sullivan?

He was good for his time, but he would get smashed today.

That is all.:hi:

 

Every man from that time would get smashed today, that´s just normal, smart-ass...

 

:blood

 

I know that you don´t like Sullivan, because you say he was a racist (although unfortunately in this time it was normal), but than stay off a Sullivan-topic...

 

Well he was "the man" for nearly 10 years apart from refusing to meet black fighters.Sullivan brought universal interest and recognition to the title,he was loved by the crowd and held in awe,he was larger than life and set the standard for the men who followed to aspire to.
Probably towards the end of his career ,or maybe even when he was in his prime ,Peter Jackson ,would have beaten him if given the chance,we will never know.Today Sullivan wouldnt acheive much but in his time he was the KING.

 

And let me guess... You say he's not, right?

 

You know my opinion on that one. For me, it´s a no contest. He was born in a racist time, it´s normal that he was also racist. Today I´m absolutely no racist or anything like that, if I was born in his era I probably would have been a racist too, unfortunately, you know what I mean? He simply had no real chose...

 

He was a champion of his time, but during his time the competition was limited as was his level of performance.

 

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Under what rule set?

I doubt that any fighter today would provide him with a serious challenge in a bare knuckle bout.

 

It's really annoying when people bring up the "fighter X fought an 80 round fight so that means he was the most conditioned guy ever!" argument, because it's simply false.

Not only was the fight game MUCH slower-paced back then, but when a fight is scheduled for 80/100/some obscene number of rounds, hell some fights were scheduled to last until SOMEBODY got KO'd, if you were ever in trouble during a round, you took a knee.

Just cause a fighter "fought 50 rounds" doesn't mean he had 50x3minutes of Hagler-Hearns action.

 

That´s logical, otherwise you would collapse...

 

:rofl Good old Luigi!:rofl :rofl :rofl