How good was Marvin Johnson

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  1. Fast_Hands

    Fast_Hands New Member Full Member

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    I have just watched his win over Leslie Stewart, winning a world title for the third time. A amazing fight, relentless pressure from Johnson.

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    How good was Marvin Johnson? What is his legacy?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    GOAT thug at the poundage.

    Top 30 ATG in his division.

    Arguably involved in the GOAT LHW fight.

    His fight with Galindez maybe the greatest bull-matador fight on film after Lamotta-Robinson VI.

    Generally lost to the best he fought, generally steam-rolled everyone else.

    Not a bad legacy for a fighter of his limitations.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marvin Johnson was a great light heavyweight. The Stewart win was actually when he was past his best. He was a great amateur. Great pro. Nothing negative to say about Marvin.

    The thing that always stands out for me about him, storywise, was that Marvin admitted, after he retired, that he never knew when to wash. Because he never took a shower during his training camp. He said he wanted to be as foul smelling as possible, because his opponent wouldn't want to lay on the inside with him, because he stunk so bad.

    I'd heard of guys not having sex before a fight. But I'd never heard of a guy refusing to wash before a fight.

    After retirement, his wife had to tell him when to take a shower or a bath, because he smelled so bad for so long, he never knew when he was due for a good washing. (LOL)
     
  4. Fast_Hands

    Fast_Hands New Member Full Member

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    I assumed he was past his best as he had had so many fights before fighting Stewart. When was his prime? How much credit should Spinks get for beating him when he did?
     
  5. Fast_Hands

    Fast_Hands New Member Full Member

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    What were his limitations? I've heard his fight with Galindez was great. What are the other best fights he was involved in?
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    USA Sports Network kinda promoted Marvin, as "Pops" in his return to win the Lightheavy Title for the third time, which was late in his career. He had several fights on their network.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Very good imo ,an integral participant in one of the strongest era of 175pounders.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Matthew Saad Muhammad.

    He wasn't crafty. He lacked the literal attributes that denote "craft."

    Before people start posting about how hard he could be to hit etc., i'm speaking relatively.
     
  9. Russell

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    The question should be "how great is Marvin Johnson?".

    He was a top tier, stand out fighter in perhaps the most stacked LHW division of all time. Even years past his best he showed himself capable of beating fighters who were good enough to go on to dominate their own respective eras, like Charles Williams.
     
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  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson was one of the few southpaws that a very good conventional fighter could "easily hit". Saad beat him twice in punch out wars. Johnson had the huevos to give Saad the first shot at his newly won crown because he had that much respect for Saad.

    CBS Sports Spectacular use to use a short Highlight clip of "Saad v MJ" wars, as a lead-in to their Sat/Sunday afternoon SSpectacular fights.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra VIP Member Full Member

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    Galindez was beyond shot when Johnson fought him.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra VIP Member Full Member

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    He bombed a shot Galindez....good for Marvin btw, but like I said, VG was done for before he got in the ring.
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here are some fights. Some he wins. Some he loses.

    Marvin Johnson vs. Vyacheslov Lemechev (1972 Olympics)
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    Marvin Johnson vs. Vandell Woods
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    Marvin Johnson vs. Matthew Franklin I
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    Marvin Johnson vs Mate Parlov
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    Marvin Johnson vs. Matthew Franklin (Saad Muhammad) II
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    Marvin Johnson vs. Victor Galindez
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wxHcb4cJco&t=495s

    Marvin Johnson vs. Eddie Gregory (Mustafa Muhammad)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQcIag_R7E&t=1866s

    Marvin Johnson vs. David Lee Royster
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjDxLpU_uA

    Marvin Johnson vs. Alvino Manson
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0twhK5UE0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0twhK5UE0

    Marvin Johnson vs. Johnny Davis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpecOwIiQ0M&t=3s

    Marvin Johnson vs. Prince Charles Williams
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxYFoPZWx_E

    Marvin Johnson vs. Eddie Davis II
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o73VA87JW2k

    Marvin Johnson vs. Jean Marie Emebe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwAp18dsZnghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwAp18dsZng

    Marvin Johnson vs. Leslie Stewart II
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XonNx-IA1vc
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    This is it. He was a very good fighter in an extremely talented era. He only lost to the best of the best and beat the rest excepting the Mwale 8 rounder which might be rather dubious.
     
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  15. Rope-a-Dope

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    I totally forgot that Mwale fight happened...never saw it. Also, only just now found out that Mwale died years ago from Parkinson's. Very sad story.