How good was Max Baer?

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  1. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here come da judge, here come da judge,,,
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Baer had a very good chance vs a young Foreman of career one.
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Max Baer is one of my favourites. A terrific fighter, he could box a bit too when he remembered to. His problem was clowning around - inside and outside the ring - and broken hands.
    I believe his loss to Braddock, and the relative one-sidedness of his loss to Louis, were due in large part to an injured hand he first picked up in an exhibition earlier in that year (1935).

    Baer would definitely make my top 15 heavyweights of all-time.
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpFTVrutZe4[/ame]
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Max Baer, if he had his head on straight, i.e., was a different person than what he was, and had the benefit of modern day training techniques with a cannier, "Charley Goldman or Manny Steward" type of trainer, would have been a sensation in his own time or any other...he was superbly built for a fighter, tall, long, smooth muscles, had a great chin and of course, a killer right hand..he was just too nice a guy and too much of a fun loving screwball to ever be a really major force as a fighter. He love the women and life in general too much to be the fighter that he was otherwise equipped to be.
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with this.:deal
     
  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Me too. He could take Foreman's shots, and he could dish it out. It might be like Lyle-Foreman, but with Baer coming on top.
     
  8. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Check out the right hand against Comiskey at 4:09 of this tribute - thats one of the best punches I've ever seen right there - Max Baer I think was one of the most powerful one punch hitters ever - freakish really - and the guy was built like an Oak Tree!!


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpD0Mii26c[/ame]
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I am no huge fan of Baer as a fighter ...I do love him as a character ... that being said rom a style standpoint he just might match up well against a prime Foreman ... he just might be able to finish what Lyle started ... it is an interesting match up stylewise ..
     
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  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Baer hit like hell with his right and...killed Frankie Campbell in 1930...Baer's right hands had separated Campbell's brain from his spinal cord...his brain was floating in his skull...he turned Ernie Schaaf's brain into mush after their fight in late 1932...and Schaaf...who complained of severe hradaches after that fight...died after taking a weak left jab in his next fight againt Primo Carnera in 1933.
    The ladies loved him..and so did the guys...with his personality and his power...he'd be a huge star in this day and age...
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ummm no.

    Schaaf had three fights after the Baer bout, one loss and two wins. He then faced Carnera.
     
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  12. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I am on board with those who pick Baer over Foreman also, he had the power to put a dent in Foreman and the stamina to finish him once George is punched out.

    I see a wild affair early with both men landing huge shots, like Foreman-Lyle.

    But Baer was far better conditioned then Lyle and he took a better shot, and those are the two reasons I like him in this fight.
     
  13. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Foreman who was aged but better skilled with his efforts against "Cooney and Holy" in the very early 90s would kill Max Baer once he got a hold of him....... Also, place them both in a 16 X 16 ring for good measure......

    Foreman by KO....... Just too strong and durable......

    Baer lands a few bombs, but 41 year old Foreman eats them well..... However, Baer doesn't digest what Foreman throws back.......

    MR.BILL
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Fine assessment.:good
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Okay, here's my anecdote.

    Max Baer smashed my grandfather's face into a car windshield, and then took my grandmother, Dorothy Mantooth, out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again.


    ...Grandmammy Mantooth was a saint, incidentally.