How good was Pacquiao's win over Oscar de la Hoya?

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the OdlH fight is taken out of context by both fans and detractors of Pacquiao alike. Fans will say it was an awesome victory and that the stoppage represents Pacquiao's superiority (OdlH being a common opponent of Mayweather). Oppositely, detractors will refer to Oscar as a "dead man walking" relating Oscar's physical presence in such a way that one might think they were describing a 90 year old man who could have been blown over by MGM Grand's aircon system.

    On the one hand, Pacquiao beat a great name, who many thought would be too big, too strong and too good for him. Oppositely, Oscar de la Hoya had not been particularly active over the 4 years preceding and was nigh on semi-retired. He hadn't competed at 147 for seven or eight years and it was clear that he did not rehydrate properly, following the weigh-in.

    It was a good win from the point of view that Pacquiao achieved the unexpected and he did give Oscar a bit of a tonking, in the process. Better this than being pedantic about his work so fair play to the manner of victory. However, Oscar was spent, mainly on account of him being old and weight-drained so, a good win, yes, but not something to write home to Mother about and not up there in his "Greatest" wins.
     
  2. wellsini

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    It was a good win but given how terrible oscar looked against Forbes 6 months earlier and the whole weight loss (oscar could barely walk let alone fight that night) it will always be discredited.

    Everyones take on the fight is always how poor, shot, weight drained etc Oscar was and nobody gives PAC credit for dismantling a fighter who has a good shout at ATG status in the year following the only SD in Floyd Mayweathers career.
     
  3. jomiyo

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    :good
     
  4. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  5. Bogotazo

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    I don't give him much credit for winning since DLH was not only inactive but physically drained, it's not Pac's fault but it's just the truth. But I do give him credit for taking the fight and moving up and demolishing him the way he did. He's a great fighter.
     
  6. horst

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    It was a very good win. Not a great win, but a very good one, for three main reasons:

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  7. The_President

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    De La Hoya was through years before he meet Pacman. The draw with still for seeing Hoya and he still made good money, but Pac met a shadow of the fighter who was formerly known as The Golden Boy.
    Mayweather met a version closer to the real deal.
     
  8. thechampizhere

    thechampizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    put it this way...freddie had said that if it was 10 years ago he wouldnt have had manny in the same ring as oscar
     
  9. irishspiceboy

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    About as good as de la hoya victory over chavez who was so washed up and just fighting for a cheque, so not much cred,the only victory give cred for is clottery,hatton was terrible a fraud,cotto had problems had to lose weight to,

    what yous think?
     
  10. gooners!!

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    It was a very big risk, not so much a great win though.

    People like to make out it was not a risky fight because of how poor DLH performed, however Pacquaio wasn't to know how poorly DLH would perform, hence the reason DLH was favourite, hence the reason it was a risky fight to take on.

    The win itself was not a particularly impressive win because! of how DLH performed.
     
  11. Totomabs

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    talking about a quick turn around..
     
  12. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not very good at all. I mean, when a guy weighs in at 147, then 24 hours later weighs less, something aint right.
     
  13. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry Pac fans but I can't give him too much credit for it. It's not Pac's fault Oscar was who he was that night. But I think that was the worst performance I ever seen from a fighter at a reasonably high level. Oscar looked like he never boxed before in his life. He was a zombie. I think a guy like Hatton would have destroyed him too. Don't want to be a hater, but I don't rate that anywhere near Pac's top victories.
     
  14. caneman

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    It means De La Hoya had problems making the weight efficiently. If you're going to discredit Pac's win over Oscar then you have to discredit Floyd's win over Diego Corrales in their first fight. Diego had problems making weight in that fight as well. You can't have it both ways.
     
  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not that much closer.