How good was prime Holyfield's work rate?

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    How good was prime Holyfield's work rate? Let's say from 1988 up till 1993.

    Do you think he had a high work rate at his peak? By the time he fought Lewis, he was only fighting in spurts, so i am curious as to how people rate his work rate when he was at his peak.
     
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  2. DS Phil Hunter

    DS Phil Hunter Active Member Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield from 1988-1992 is the best version for me trained by George Benton over the later Emanuel Stewart and Don Turner trained versions. He could block, catch and counter punches and would step with opponents (as Benton would train him to do) he was much sharper and his lighter bodyweight made him quicker overall. His fights with Tillis (1988) , Dokes (1989), Douglas (1990), Foreman (1991), Cooper (1991) and Bowe (1992) were his best where he was exciting to watch. From (1993-1997) he was far less consistent and tended to conserve his efforts more and didn't move and counter as quickly as before his best fights were his rematch with Bowe (1993), Mercer (1995). Tyson (1996) and Moorer 2 (1997). His last great effort was the rematch with Lewis (1999) but it just wasn't quite enough.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Benton had Holy boxing better than anyone else. He really set the mold for Holy.
     
  4. DS Phil Hunter

    DS Phil Hunter Active Member Full Member

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    Yes Lou Duva put togther a team for Holyfield. George Benton was his boxing coach and Tim Hallmark his conditioner.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    His workrate was pretty good but it's not unheard of. What made Holyfield really special imo, was that he'd throw 5/6 punches at a time.
     
  6. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...and those punches were invariably accurate and efficient. I remember thinking Holyfield was 'old school' at the time, a throwback fighter with a tremendous work ethic.
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holy also kept in a range and at the ready to put mental pressure as well as punching pressure on opponents.

    Nobody got a break or a round off.

    I was at Evander-Qawi I, which is pre-prime, and you wanna talk workrate … young Holyfield was a freaking machine over 15 rounds of pure fury.
     
  8. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yup. He filled every moment of a fight with something!!
     
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  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Holyfield was a beast. During his younger years he was more aggressive, had an excellent workrate and he threw crisp, quality shots in combinations. He had ridiculous conditioning that allowed him to throw punches in high volume while also being accurate as well.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    During his younger years he was also fighting smaller opponents. In addition to the effects of age and his supplementation regimen, moving into the big boy league changed his output, and you can still see him gravitate toward smaller heavies.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Evander was a light heavyweight as an amateur and by his 12th fight he was a cruiserweight world champ. He beat Dwight Muhammad Qawi (who outweighed him by almost 4 pounds) and had six defenses/unification fights against true cruiserweights before moving up to heavyweight.

    His first four heavyweight opponents were 8 or more pounds heavier and 12 of his first 15 heavyweight fights were against guys with significant weight advantages (the others being around his size — a few shorter or about his height but almost all of them were naturally bigger men with bigger frames).

    He fought:

    Riddick Bowe x3
    Lennox Lewis x2
    Sugar Valuev
    George Foreman
    James Douglas

    All of these class as super heavyweights. Not to mention guys who were significantly bigger than Evander but weren’t quite super heavies.

    Yeah, he had a few breathers against smaller men (not always easy fights though) like Bobby Czyz but he basically fought a who’s-who of the heavyweight division in his era regardless of size and there is zero indication from his record that he went after smaller guys, lol.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He found room for Larry Donald, Vaughan Bean, Mike Moorer, Czyz, Mercer, Cooper and of course Tyson twice, too. None were exactly giants.
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure of the google AI accuracy but it puts him in the 46-49 punches per round in prime! Which is an insane work rate. Prob only Liston, Frazier, Marciano reached that kind of punch output.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think his workrate was good. I don’t have any numbers as far as how many punches he averaged per round but I always remember him being busy from the opening bell until the end
     
  15. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Probably a 9/10.