how good was "prince" naseem?

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  1. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    8-4,9-3,7-5 depending on how you score fights.

    If your a biased kid like yourself I can see how you may come to a 9-3 or 10-2 type decision. It's irrelevant anyway nobody disputes the loss just the manor and perception of the loss.

    Pac v JMM 3, calzaghe v Lacy, Gatti v Oscar ,cotto v Gomez are examples of a schooling. Hamed v Barrera was a fairly uneventful fight with rounds of inactivity that could have gone either way with both fighters taking next to no risks.

    I'm not a huge Hamed fan, I prefer Barrera to Hamed. Hamed is a scumbag outside of the ring, but inside it he was fantastic.
     
  2. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was good clearly level under guys like MAB, Pac, Morales, JMM etc if you think he is on the same level you are blind.
    So many fighters have hand problems, Floyd have problems over 10 years and still wins, fact is Hamed run away from the sport and its not opinion its a fact first and only time he faced A level ATG he lost clearly(it wasnt close)...
    I love how Hamed fans fail to mention that at that time everyone was saying MAB is done he had two losses to Junior Jones and lost to Morales and now Hamed fans try to spin the truth.
     
  3. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    Junior Jones was Barrera's daddy.
     
  4. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Than he is clearly grandpa of your bellowed Hamed :lol:
     
  5. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    I'd rather pay to watch Hamed and Barrera.


    Hamed is more remembered than Barrera. Barrera lost to Junior Jones twice. He got frustrated in the first fight then got outboxed in the 2nd.
     
  6. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Better than Uzzy and Khan, but not in the league as Raymi and Prince Maz
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was good, very good, lets not forget he was dominating featherweight until Barerra moved up and the only reason Hamed moved up from super bantam to feather in the first place was because he couldn't get a title shot at super bantam at that stage as he was too much risk for not enough reward at that early stage.

    He was far better early on in his career when he used to move and counter punch. He was your typical Ingle fighter, slick, elusive and awkward as hell. But he fell in love with is power, he started leading with single shots instead of drawing fighters in with the low guard and countering in combination. That worked against good and very good fighters but when he stepped in with a great that cost him badly.

    He had definitely declined by the time he fought Barerra, his ego and self belief through his faith deluded him to a point he genuinely thought he only had to show up, in his mind he was unbeatable.

    Which is why when he did lose he crumbled, Allah was no longer in his corner, his faith and self belief were rocked to the core and mentally he wasn't the same fighter. He comeback fight was disappointing, he didn't look the same.

    Personally I don't think he would have ever beaten Barerra. Prime Hamed would have given him a much tougher fight, being more elusive and awkward but Barrera was faster than anyone he had fought before and looking at them far bigger physically.

    So at his best he was good enough to hang with greats like Barerra and Morales and had things been different he may have fought both those greats numerous times, he definitely belonged at that level but he wasn't as great as them.
     
  8. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    He cleaned out a division and beat a string of current and former world champs.

    He did it all by 26 as well

    I saw an interview with him recently where he said his hands were the main reason he quit. He kept having issues with them and that led to him losing interest.
     
  9. DoubleEdge

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    Didn't cause him a problem getting behind the wheel when he drove drunk and knocked down a man before running away like a little b*tch
     
  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    True.
     
  11. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    He was absolutely fantastic. My reason for first watching boxing.
     
  12. Triple b

    Triple b New Member Full Member

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    He was elite his power speed and accuracy were phenomenal he KO'd nearly everyone he fought at world title level showed a lot of heart against Kevin Kelly, Got sucked too far into his own hype got rid of ingle and became a diva didn't train for MAB that's why he lost,, he should have got into hall of fame first ballot.
     
  13. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You've never heard of Kevin Kelley? With respect, you have no business commenting on a fighter who was active before you started watching boxing, and you know nothing about
     
  14. cleming

    cleming Active Member Full Member

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    And Medina, Vasquez, McCullough, Johnson, Ingle, Bungu .... This guy doesn't know much about boxing obviously.
    Naseem Hamed was a damn good fighter. Really special.
     
  15. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    You never heard of Kevin Kelley?
    Wayne McCullough?
    Tom Johnson?
    Wilfredo Vasquez?