How good was Rahman Ali?

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    Jul 2, 2006
    Muhammad's brother? I have never seen him fight. How good was he?
  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    He wasn’t bad, but he lacked the ambition in my opinion to become a really good fighter.

    He became too comfortable in assisting his brother and became a reliable sparring partner for Ali, but unfortunately this hindered his own development, since to be anything in boxing a boxer has to be selfish toward their own career as a fighter.

    Here is some footage of Rahman Ali
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    This is great. I never saw this before, nor have I ever seen Rahman fight for that matter. It would have been cool to see him against better opposition. His opponent wasn't much. He came in with some damage already to his left eye and had a very unorthodox bob and weave. To tell you the truth, it looked more like a bob and heave. The sort of position one has been in coming home from the pub on a Saturday night. Funny things stick in the head though. I'm sure I saw a Junior Grant fight Lou Esa on the undercard of a big fight. I looked up Esa's record and found him fighting a Billy Grant on the undercard of Duran-Alvaro Rojas. I recall the fight being abbreviated and them showing filler fights to make up time. I looked up Billy Grant and his 'career' started after Junior's ended. Curiously, they are both from the Bahamas. I think it's the same fighter.
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  4. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 3, 2005
    had a lousy record if you look at his opposition, but looked like he had some skills in that video. I think he had a brother that fought also
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    So Rahman Ali followed his brother’s religious influence and likewise acquired a Muslim name. Interesting
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    Jul 2, 2006
    good post and video

    Wow. It seems like Rahman has some good speed and was probably the same size as Muhammad. He does not appear to be quite as fast as Muhammad but not too far behind either. Certainly his speed is well above average for a heavy.

    Do you think a dedicated Rahman would have been a top contender? He likely isn't beating Foreman or Frazier but after watching that video, i have a feeling he could beat a lot of top guys in that era if he was dedicated.
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Good enough to lose by a one punch knockout to Jack O'Halloran.
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  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Rahman Ali v. Ray Patterson would have been interesting.
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    Jun 29, 2007
    Rhaman Ali was not good enough to beat a top ten contender, a fringe contender or a good journeyman.
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    Jul 2, 2006
    maybe. But he seems to have some serious athleticism in the video posted. I have a hard time believing he couldn't do better if he was more determined.
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

    Jun 29, 2007
    In boxing I think you need to be a fighter first. Most fighters are not good athletes. You have to be tough enough to get in there and take the blows, or amazingly gifted to the point where you don't have to take many of them. Rhaman Ali was neither.
  12. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 6, 2019
    Took Danny McAlinden the distance so he can't have been too bad !
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    Dec 31, 2009
    Theres no telling how far anyone could go unless they had the best of everything and had the right attitude to get there.

    you can see ability. But ability ain’t squat if the attitude and right help isn’t there. Having one without the other won’t do it.

    Every world champion was a full time job for a team of people to get him there. Nobody did anything on their own. The champions show a commitment that others buy into. And there are others who try like mad and just won’t get anywhere because nobody bought what they were selling.

    So Even with the best of everything you still have to have the right temperament to be successful.