How Good was tunney's stamina?

No .I am explaining to you ,why Marciano only went 15 rds once .The answer is because he stopped all his other opponents inside the distance ,in fights that were scheduled for 15rds.
We are talking about 15 rd fights NOT 10 rounders.
Marciano MADE the fight ,and set the pace in all his battles ,Tunney did not.
Gibbons, was on the slide, Carpentier too, and Greb fading .
Tunney NEVER beat a class HEAVYWEIGHT over 15rds, in fact he only met ONE heavyweight over the distance, a journeyman, sparring partner.
Finishing strong against middles and light heavies , over 15 rds ,is different to doing it against 200lbs plus heavyweights.

 

I certainly see no reason to think that Tunney had issues with stamina.

 

Nor me ,neither do I have see any reason to suppose his stamina was anything out of the ordinary for a professional boxer.
This topic arose from a remark made by Guilalah referring to Tunney's "exceptional stamina" on another thread, I challenged the basis for assuming Tunney had exceptional stamina,and now the subject has taken on a life,and thread of it's own.
I am a Tunney fan, but, since Guilalah has posted this thread ,and referred to me in it ,I felt duty bound to respond.
I really have no axe to grind here .

Tunney had issues with speed ,men faster than him gave him trouble, and they were smaller men. Ali was not only faster ,he was considerably bigger ,and I imagine stronger.

I think he takes a hard fought ,but comfortable decision off Tunney.

 

Nice to debate ,and not have to keep my hands up.:good
You made a compelling case and ,I should imagine the majority posters involved, agree with you, I don't disagree, just remain open minded on it.

 

And Marciano often did.

 

Marciano fought 10 ,200lbs plus heavyweights, and 13 over 190lbs .
Tunney fought 1, 200lbs plus heavyweight ,and 4 over 190lbs.
And Tunney had 20 more fights than Marciano.
69 to 49.

Does that answer your question?

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-Mcvey

My point was that Marciano never did this either, so it seems strange to penalize only Tunney for not achieving this feat. Unless I'm mistaken Rocky only ever went past the mid rounds against a 200+ pounder in the Louis fight and also possibly his first fight against Gino Buonvino. Also factor in that the vast majority of 200 pounders he fought were tomato cans. My point is simply that Marciano isn't really that much more proven against 200 plus pounders in the later rounds. Though it is true Marciano was more proven against bigger fighters in general, but it's also true that Tunney fought most of his career at LHW and only filled out to a comparable weight to Marciano near the end of his career.

Tunney often went into the late rounds and on any film of him fighting in the late rounds he looks fresh and sharp. That coupled with the testimony of his contemporaries leads me the believe he had exceptional stamina.

 

I take your point , actually I never originally mentioned Marciano ,I believe that was Mendoza, drawing a comparison between the two.

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Agreed. Marciano only went 15 once. Mcvey suggested that Tunney only did this a few times with lighter weight fighters. Charles was not much heavier than the fighters Tunney went 15 with.

 

I think this topic has strayed demonstrably off its original course.
In the beginning it was a discussion about whether Tunney could be regarded as having exceptional stamina, now it appears it is a comparison between Marciano,whose name you introduced into the mix ,and Tunney, and the respective merits of their individual stamina. There really seems no point in continuing it,imo.