How good was Vernon Forrest?

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  1. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    I remember watching his first fight with Mosley and I watched the rematch. I lost track of boxing for a bout a year and missed out on a lot of action in the lower divisions. I saw all the big fights but just didn't keep track.

    Tell Jazzo about this guy.
     
  2. teeto

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  3. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Elaborate, teeto.

    I think Hatton was very good.

    I also think Ali was very good.

    How very good are we talking, bud?
     
  4. teeto

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    Well not as good as Ali. You could argue Hatton had a better career, and thus you could derive from that that he was better. But personally, i prefer Forrest to him. I remember watching the Forrest-Mayorga fight when it happened. Even though he got stopped (i was boxing as an amateur then), i went to the gym and tried to eumlate everything i saw Forrest doing in round two. He was so good in that round, it was like his performance against Baldomir. Coming in with uppercuts behind the jab and a left hook following. His shining moment as we know was Mosley number one, that is a great performance, even if he is not deemed great by his piers as a fighter. Technically, he's one of the best fighters our era saw.

    He has that bad loss at 154 to Mora, but he did avenge it in good style. Whether he was past prime or not we can only debate, becase he was certainly atill performing well at that stage of his career. I've only seen a couple rounds of Quartey-Forrest, and i understand it's razor close.
     
  5. Jazzo

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    How would you rate his power?
     
  6. teeto

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    It's good. I don't know really, but the Mosley knockdowns speak for themselves. Mosley does posess a great chin, but it's nowhere near as proven as the conclusions people draw on it would imply.
     
  7. Jazzo

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    Yup, that is my impression. I thought I might have erred there, but if others agree with you then maybe I have him rated in the right ballpark after all.

    Cheers.
     
  8. teeto

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    No problem. I always took time to watch Forrest box, just to watch, it's quality to see that kind of boxing imo.
     
  9. Rebel-INS

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    Yeah, plus Mosley was knocked stupid by the clash of heads. Forrest had good power, but he was no knockout artist.
     
  10. teeto

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    Agreed.
     
  11. techks

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    He had a very good right hand and was a skilled boxer. If I wasn't such a fan of Mosley's I'd probably be a Forrest fan lol. Personally, I thought people were crazy saying he won the rematch with Mayorga but that fight was closer than I remembered once I rewatched it last week and I can see that as a Forrest win. His last fight just showed a great last hurrah and he toke Mora(I know he wasn't that good but still) to school in a great performance. He wasn't a finisher but had good power and it's unfortunate he had shoulder problems. He will be missed for not just being a very good boxer, but also being a very good person.
     
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    Agreed, he boxed very well.
     
  13. techks

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    His second fight with Mosley could've been a draw but not alot of people acknowledge that probably because they refuse to rewatch it lol. He was one of the best technical fighters of his time and I always enjoy watching his fights.
     
  14. Svengali

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    Tremendous 1-2 boxer who wasn't very marketable compaired to many of his contemporaries. Seemed to be poorly managed too, if you ask me. I hated the guy because he was a thorn in Shane Mosley's side his entire career (pro and amateur) but he was a solid fighter. Style wise, I think he would do well in a fantasy warfare scenario against Floyd because his jab was so good.
     
  15. GPater11093

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    The Mosley KD's really are weird, Forrest never demonstrated that power before or after but he rips Mosley with everything, that uppercut, the right hook to the body that rips Mosley in two......

    Everything came together for him that night.

    Forrest is brilliant. A tall rangy fellow he kept behind that jab but looked for openings off of it, instead of waiting to counter, and managed to counter whilst jabbing, as Teeto says by the uppercuts after the jab, but even hooks and overhand rights. George Foreman once says Forrest boxes like a Heavyweight in the way he slowed down the pace of a bout and able to counter over peoples punches.

    Absoloutly class boxer IMO.