How Good Were Benn and Eubanks ?

Collins got Benn and Chris at their worst. And as soon as he had to face someone who wasn't shot and was in their prime (Calzaghe) he retired.

Collins was muck.

 

Said Benn was shot, Eubanks wasn't. "Muck" bit was insightful.....

 

Collins was hard to watch, there's no getting around that. I did admire his ability to take something normally associated with poor fighters (awkwardness) and turn it into a big positive. He had no other choice, really. Almost no punching power, not much in the way of boxing skills, so what else was there to put him in elevated company? Awkward aggression (not to mention a great chin) was his ticket.

 

Benn (x2), Watson (x2), Jarvis, Thornton, Holmes, Close, Wharton, Collins and Calzaghe were all in The Ring top-ten. While Rocchigiani and Malinga were former and future world champions. So that's 12-13, not four.

Sherry, Stretch and Amaral were just out of their teens and considered prospects. Eubank's strength ended Sherry and Stretch, while Amaral was much stronger/tougher than those pricks and went on to give Frankie Liles a hard fight.

 

In fact, Thornton was rated #1 by all four bodies when he fought Eubank (if you discount Tim Littles who pulled out injured against Eubank - Littles was #1 and Thornton #2 across all four but Littles was out inj).

 

Jarvis and Holmes weren't and I said who he "defeated" not got beaten up by . I'll have to check on Close and Wharton- i don't think either was. Close may have been given a top 10 ranking 'after' the Eubank fight.

So the answer is probably four, five at a stretch.

 

As for Schommer, he beat Virgil Hill when Hill was rated #1 in the world in the amateurs. He also beat Tim Littles in '85. He obviously had ability, but self-managed himself and didn't get the chances.

 

They both were mate. Close before. Wharton in '93 was WBC and WBO mandatory and Don King and Barry Hearn had to pay them off to get Eubank-Benn II on.

 

They weren't...mate. My original question was about Ring, not boxing alphabets, trying to get some objective viewpoints on who he beat. Thornton was rated #9 at time of Eubank fight in the Ring, although he was higher in the sanctioning bodies and a deserving contender. I never said otherwise.

 

Who cares who he beat as an amateur? It's irrelevant it doesn't mean he was any good as a pro, Audley Harrison won a gold medal at the Olympics and the Commonwealth Games and has done virtually nothing as a pro except win a European title when well behind.

 

I definitely recall seeing Close and Wharton around the 8-10 mark in The Ring for '93-'94. Not that a subjective magazine means anything.

It's kind of interesting how Ron Essett was US #1 156lber in '84, when Eubank wasn't even NY #1 156lber. And Tim Littles, who Dan Schommer beat weeks before, became #1 US 156lber in '85 while Eubank still wasn't even NY #1 156lber.

It shows the kind of progress Eubank made.

 

You can only laugh at how pathetic he's becoming...he was embarrasing already as atberry It was bad enough when he went on about Lindell Holmes doing well vs Darrin Van Horn...DARRIN VAN HORN!!! A man who lost a fight through fear when Iran Barkely barked at him at a weigh-in. :yep

 

Of course, another publication with a Eubank agenda.

Struggling to find the interest here....hang on...it's...no, didn't happen.

 

KO Magazine liked Eubank. probably because Steve Farhood had something to do with that mag, Chris Eubank being his favourite ever fighter.

Van Horn was a good fighter.

Who did Showtime score Eubank-Benn II too? Ferdie the fight Dr - oh yeah, Eubank by a few rounds.

 

The worst 2 weight world champion in history.

And everyone but you (and maybe a few other Eubank ass kissers) knows that Benn should of won the second Eubank fight.