How good were Charles's wins over Moore?

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While Charles undoubtedly performed better over the series, it seems like a bit of a fluke that it didn't end at 2-1.

Perhaps fluke is too strong a word, perhaps I mean luck.

 

Possibly Wilder-Fury 1, 2, 3.

 

No

 

I was just poking you with a stick.

 

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Greb wasn't prime for all of them.

 

To give Moore's wins some context, the only other Fighter who had the drop on Archie was a guy called Charlie Burley.

 

... who Charles also dominated.

 

How would you rate Ali's win against Moore?

 

Was it really a stacked era or are you pulling our collective legs again???

 

I’m not sure that we can give it too much merit to be honest. Moore was getting close to 50 with hundreds of fights of mileage behind him. He was way overdue for retirement.. I suppose it was an “ ok “ win for a prospect with only a dozen or so fights but not anything that Ali can get any real points for either.

 

Do you think that the up and coming Cassius Clay could have beaten a 1951 Archie Moore, considering his close calls with Doug Jones and Hnery Cooper?

 

That’s a very interesting question... While I would have always picked Muhammad Ali to have beaten Moore at his fully developed “ pinnacle “ I probably wouldn’t pick the prospecting Clay to beat the Mongoose, no. A lot of people don’t realize that Archie truly had an amazing record not only at light heavy but at heavyweight as well. I looked up and counted his heavyweight bouts and did a post on it a couple months ago and I think I determined that he had something like a 64-4 record above 175. He was truly one of the greatest fighters of all time and not someone you wanted to put a green prospect in with.... Not even the aspiring Cassius Clay.. incidentally, I read that A young Clay was brought to Archie’s training camp out in the country to train with him. Clay left the camp when he refused to partake in the daily chores Moore assigned to him..

 

When did I ever pull your "collective legs"?