How good were Joe Louis's skills? (With poll)

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How good were Louis's technical skills overall by modern standards??

  1. Louis's skills were poor, and I've *never* had a boxing match

    1.9%
  2. Louis's skills were poor, and I've had at least one boxing match

    3.8%
  3. Louis's skills were average, and I've *never* had a boxing match

    1.9%
  4. Louis's skills were average, and I've had at least one boxing match

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Louis's skills were very good, and I've *never* had a boxing match

    17.0%
  6. Louis's skills were very good, and I've had at least one boxing match

    3.8%
  7. Louis's skills were incredible, and I've *never* had a boxing match

    32.1%
  8. Louis's skills were incredible, and I've had at least one boxing match.

    39.6%
  9. I voted by accident, so I'm picking this one.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Seems unlikely that so many experienced people would all be "lying." Why would such a large number of people on the forum all choose to lie like that? What do they all get out of it?

    Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
     
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    Everything is a conspiracy when you're narrow minded and come across information that doesn't fit your narrative. It's much more mentally comforting to assume people are lying or trolling instead of admitting you may be wrong (which I have never seen him do). Only intelligent and/or humble people can do that.
     
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    no its cause people stuck and act blind I said this mutiple times he was outdated or he wouldnt have been beat or stuggled with the people he did

    he fought in a era where he did so good vs alot of trash if a above average person is in a sport vs average people yea the above average will look good it's common sense

    the same way deontay went undefeated so long he fought trash he was trash himself though but had a great punch to land
    same thing

    people are stuck into seeing louis for how he was vs trash but they leave out jersey cause he was the most that showed how outdated joe was

    have you not noticed they leave jers out it's always max primo or schmeling
    its mutiple pages from years ago and jers is missing cause the reason I said

    so leave jers out and keep talking on the trash he fought yea he was good as they say he was but they never put only for his era and before like I do which is the right way to put it not for future
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

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    No one leaves out jersey Joe. And he beat him twice you idiot. You guys keep bringing up Jersey Joe to "debunk" Louis skills when he actually defeated him.
     
  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    As you say.

    Defeated him twice. It bears emphatic repeating. Much like the victory over Jersey Joe itself.
     
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    Here is a clip. It's nice and short. Perfect to cite specific timestamps. Louis is sparring with a mobile person.

    Play the coach. What is he doing wrong technically?
     
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    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    -Schmeling beats Louis, but Schmeling has trash skill
    -Walcott loses twice to Louis, and yet Walcott has amazing skill.

    If mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport he'd be Michael Phelps.
     
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    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Huh. That's true.. Same size, too, and Schmeling isn't a great puncher or anything. How did Schmeling win, exactly?
     
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    But Walcott won both fights! I mean, the KO was fake - it's clear when you watch it!
     
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    Paid off the ref I guess. He had Nazi backing after all.
     
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    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    "You're OK, Joe. He didn't lay a glove on ya."

    "Then you'd better check the ref, Chappie, because somebody in there is beating me up."

    "...Odds bodkins and forsooth,* Joe! You're right! The ref is beating you up!"









    * They all spoke selective Shakespearean English back then, because it was the Before Times.
     
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    That footage involves paid actors. And the record on boxrec was submitted by Louis fanboys. Walcott did indeed beat him twice, but the American public had already built Louis up as a hero and didn't want him to have an embarrassing 0-2 record against any opponent. The people who witnessed the fight were all blinded by the men in black agents to forget what happened.
     
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    he is moving outdated can you not see he is not moving the same smooth way as jersey and not using the mutiple movements jers used he looks bad
     
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  14. cross_trainer

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    Which movements? Which outdated movements?

    It's just a 50 second clip. Describe in your words what he's doing wrong, and tell us what second(s) in the video it's at.
     
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    Or just chalk it up to yet another mystifying fumble by a total loss.