How good were Joe Louis's skills? (With poll)

Noone except moneytheclown would argue that point, my friend.

Sometimes I wonder if he's really Charlie (0-1) Zelenoff.

 

Actually, based on this clip alone, he does a good job cutting the ring off. He isn't just following Walcott in a straight line and approaches at a 45 degree angle. His lead leg is consistently between Walcott's legs ensuring that Walcott cannot simply escape with a sudden movement to the left or right.

He certainly isn't fighting on his "tip toes" or moving with "cement feet" the way idiots who apparently haven't watched a single Louis fight are claiming.

 

It's not Walcott he is sparring.

 

You should get a clue. The outdated movements show in black and white. If they weren't outdated they would be in color. Do you see anything in color there buddy?

 

Well everything he's doing in the clip is a good way to deal with lateral movement. Still waiting for these guys to explain what was so horrible here.

 

They won't as they have no idea.

 

What some don't get on this site, and too arrogant to learn is the version of Louis Walcott faced was well past his prime. It wasn't the best of Louis,,,,by a long shot. Louis was coming off a almost 5yr lay- off between 1942 and 47' the year he fought Walcott, when he may have had 5 total fights. It was the War years, his time mainly was spent doing exhibitions for the soilders abroad.
Why is this significant? Because in 1941 alone he had 7 fights. From 1936 until 41 he had over twenty fights those were the years he was at his most deadly best.
Life holds no guarantees, but I'd be willing to bet a paycheck Walcott wouldn't get past 5-10rds with Louis during that time.
It's speaks volumes about how good Louis was when he was a shell of his former self yet was able to beat a fighter as good as Walcott was, ko'ing him the 2nd fight.
Using Walcott as some example of Louis's struggles against a mover is like using Spinks win over Ali as some indication of how he would do against a fighter of(Spinks) his caliber in his prime. It's laughable to be honest.
I could see them using Conn's performance, because Louis was prime.
But Walcott?

 

Somebody actually inferred in this thread (and it's been stated outright in other threads by the modern equals better group) that Jersey Joe Walcott looked modern in his technique. I agree with that. So how did that modern look serve him in such a weak era, with such poorly developed champions?

Walcott: against other Lineal Heavyweight Champions...

Louis: 0-2
Charles: 2-2
Marciano: 0-2
TOTAL: 2-6.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: You can't judge these fighters solely by YouTube Videos. It's such an obvious fact, I find it hard to believe that I even have to say it. If they could be 100% judged that way, the people with that video judging talent would be millionaires from betting on current boxing alone.

 

well look at jers you can see him moving smoothly around moving while using angles

joe is more like tiptoeing looking real amateurish not using as much movement
jers is punching while moving smoothly
while joe is punching sloopy while moving and looks off balance doing it

you can see this I know your not blind
like I said before joe stuggled to hit a moving person shown in this vid to and all his vids

he struggles to hit a moving person who moves good no ver of joe exist where he moves as good as jers moved

 

it doesnt matter which joe we used he never was modern in his movements as jers simple as that why act like his age mattered as if he was modern when he never was

 

Very poor troll attempt!

 

well if I was attempting to do that you would be right looks like you are though truth hurts I see

 

Can you please explain what " modern" movement is to you....

 

well modern is moving advanced smoothly and mutiple angles while moving or retreating
blocking while punching with 1 arm and mutiple other things

you seen Jersey and other matches have you ever seen anybody in that time move as smoothly or as good as he did while moving forward or back cause I never have