how good would Gerald McClellan have been if the Benn fight had been stopped in 1st?

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  1. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    gerald had benn against the ropes a number of times after the knockdown in that first round despite the refs stupidity and he couldn't land anything clean on benn. yes the ref was awful in the first, but lets not act like he stood between benn and gerald for the full remaining couple of minutes and didn't allow anything to happen.
     
  2. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Whats funny? Is I knew YOU were coming out the woodwork:rofl

    Your the only one who ever defends Asarao. I dont give a **** what you say. I'll let any reasonable and objective person watch the first round and make their own conclusion on whether otr not Asaro interfered with McClellan in the first round.

    **** ASARO!!! That MOTHER****ER IS BANNED from Pittsburgh or could be got at any moment in such locale:yep

    Honestly? What he did? Incites my rage in a way, that prevents logic and reason from having a shot at over-riding my more HUMANE and reasonable side.


    There's NO WAY ON THIS PLANET OR ANY OTHER, that Benn survives round 1 without Asaro. It has nothing to do with the count either. But his INTERFERENCE which includes pushing off and manhandling of a fighter of which I've never seen. He was literally pushing McClellan off with both hands and trying to use angles of his own.

    That piece of **** is a DISGRACE to the sport and respectable ref's EVERYWHERE.He is absolute scum of the earth that deserves aboutr 20 eternities in HELL for that "performance".


    **** ASARO!!!! May that mother****er burn in permanent HELL:fire :fire :fire
     
  3. ThePlugInBabies

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    i've never defending asaro, the job he done was a shitty one that night and i actually said so in my above post.

    i was making the point that the g-man had chances to take benn out in that first and did not take them because he couldn't tag benn when he started to bob and weave low down. something you won't admit yourself.
     
  4. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Ok, I must be fair your the only 1 to attempt to argue the point. Possibly you arent a relative of Asaro.


    Yet? If you can honestly say that MCCleellans "Chances" to take Benn out in the first round werent interfered with by Asaro?

    Then You and I are on two different continents of thoughts and understanding.

    The ref played a role and it turned out to be a tragic role. Now its one thing as a fighter to get robbed of outcome(WHICH STILL IS WRONG and sucks to the BILLIONTH DEGREE) but its quite another to have your entire LIFE changed permanently by such.

    See when you step in that ring and lay your existence on the LINE? YOu deserve a fair 1. This aint a street fight:nono This is what its all about and MCClellan was ****ed over by a fat piece of worthless **** who probably sits on his rocking chair fat andhappy with his grandkids while a man's prime and LIFE was irrevocably changed byh his actions.

    Let that mother****er come 2 pittsburgh:yep He'll be on fire as he's hung from the the LIBERTY BRIDGE:good
     
  5. ThePlugInBabies

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    of course he interfered with the g-mans chances, that's fairly obvious. i just like to try and even things out and show the other side of the coin. too many people (this is not aimed at you) talk such utter **** about this fight you'd think asaro handcuffed the g-man for the rest of that round and allowed benn free shots to the back of his head.

    but yes the ref has a lot to answer for, although as far as gerald's health, sadly it seemed like this was always going to happen in the long run going from reports before this fight about his blinking and intense headaches. he was ****ed before the fight, the last thing you need in that sort of condition is to go to war with an animal like benn.
     
  6. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Ultimately? I see you as Benn fan trying to defend the WIN. Hell I dont dispute he won the fight as it was. But Asaro did everything but CUFF McClellan in the first. A crime? I'll never forget and its an insult to the the sport fans, and fighters. In all seriousness? I would likely lose it if I saw Asaro. Thats how deeply his wrongs MOVE ME. I have no problem with Benn. He's an absolute WARRIOR worthy of being revered for coming back.

    Yet he doesnt come back without Asaro and thats the real PROBLEM.
    Surely? McClellan's future might not have existed in the ring beyond that fight. But he would havehad the mental capacity to make that decision 4 himself. Indstead? Ol Alfred sealed the deal permanently.
    Something which he would deservedly have coming back around on him.

    I dont blame or take anything from Benn. The man fought one hell of a fight, especially considering he did so AFTER BEING KO'd:good

    Yet, I cant stand with that BS, because it hurts the sport, fans, and fighters. It was a HUGE tragedy and one I hope and wish is never repeated:yep
     
  7. shavers

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    The damage was already done before he climbed in to Benn.
    After the first fight against Jackson he complained over serious headaches.If you watch that fight you see Jackson land some serious bombs on McClellan, he was damaged goods after that fight
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

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    how can you be so sure that after the benn fight (this is if gerald wins) g-man thinks, hang on, i don't feel right at all, maybe i should go see a doctor and have this sorted and give the fighting a rest?

    all the talk is that he had major health problems going into the benn fight yet he decided to go through with it still regardless of the russian roulette he was playing with is life.

    if he does it once, blows benn out in one, takes no meaningful shots in return he'll do it again and most probably end up in the same state after the proposed RJJ fight.
     
  9. Smith

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    So you havent seen the fight then have you?:patsch
     
  10. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    I'll admit that I havent seen the fight in years, but I dont remember the ref helping Benn into the ring, and it seems to me that I would remember something that blatant.

    Does anyone have a video that they could post to clarify this.
     
  11. smiffy

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    the ref helped benn back into the ring :yep you obviously haven't even seen the fight, so why comment ? enjoying making a fool out of yourself i hope ?
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    I never was a massive Benn fan but as you can see here the referee did NOT help him back into the ring after that first knockdown, I don't know where this bull**** came from. The fact is that Benn was hurt and went down but he wasn't all over the place or anything, he had a clear head otherwise he'd have struggled to get back into the ring, simple as that. The referee was a bit lenient towards Benn in that first round but I've seen far, far worse in the past. Watch for yourself and ask yourself the following:-

    1. Would he have been justified to stop the fight at any point in that first round? I say no.

    2. If he hadn't held McClellan off for at best 2 seconds when Benn got back into the ring would the outcome have been any different? Again I say no.

    In fact if you watch the whole fight a case can be made for stopping Benn in the 8th round when he looked far more shaky to me, but it's been proved that the referee was right to let him carry on because he won. All this talk of rabbit punching is sour grapes too, there was a headbutt complaint from McClellan at one point but again in no way could it have been deliberate as Benn hit him with the back of his head as he was falling over :lol:

    Watch it for yourself, it's all there on youtube:-

    [yt]fZ9yRbrKLxw&feature=related[/yt]
     
  13. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Okay, everyone that said he was helped back into the ring, YOU HAVE BEEN ****ING OWNED. Ypu now deserved to be a bloody ****ing git for making on about something that clearly did not happen. And McClellan faied to KO him, and Benn was fighting back, and since Gman wasnt really landing anything consecutively, the ref was RIGHT not to stop the fight.
     
  14. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Benn hit his head on a camera and was proper seeing stars n all. All time great warriors performance imo
     
  15. bill poster

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    The knockdown wasnt as bad as I remembered- certainly should not have been stopped. Gman put his glove up to his eye in the 2nd..was he already having problems that early?