How good would Khan be if he had a good chin?

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  1. JordanK2406

    JordanK2406 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that if Khan had a chin which could actually hold up he could have been elite level, deffo a p4p fighter
     
  2. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. he is underrated thanks to his chin.
     
  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    His chin is not good, but it's not too bad.
    His problem is compromising position to enter into harms way, sometimes lunging forward. This is what destroys him. He has no gameplan so is easy to time as he does the same thing over and over again.

    He actually has learned very little since turning pro, he had tailored his style too much according to 3 rounds of the amateurs. Back then, he got away with it, but in the pros where it's 12 rounds, you can't get away with it.
     
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  4. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    I had to delay replying to this because I was laughing so hard.

    His chin is GARBAGE, one of the worst the sport has ever seen in terms of rated fighters.
     
  5. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    No.

    If he had a chin he would do better, but he lacks so many skills in a lot of departments. No ring IQ, no plan B, no defence. He just doesn't have the toolset and that includes chin.
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Khan has next to no ringcraft which alongside his chin and lack of serious firepower is what sees him fail at the top level.

    Not quite sure why he gets so much hate though. There are other far more annoying characters in boxing IMO.
     
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  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I think Khan is good, if not very decent to be honest. He gets more hate than warranted I think.

    His chin confuses me. He actuallly took a lot of flush shot from Canelo before being totally iced. But he also got floored badly by Willie Limond. I agree with Gannicus in a sense though; it's just as much to do with him not protecting his chin as it is the chin being terrible.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He'd still have poor defence, a poor work ethic, little to no counter punching which leads him to be predictable and unable to transition from offence to defence effectively. Fact is when he's backed up he's totally ineffective because he can't counter. That's why Petersen gave him so much trouble he could do just enough to win rounds knowing that nothing would come his way if he had Khan on the defensive. Having opponents come at you knowing nothing will come back if they pressure isn't good at all.

    Other fighters have overcome poor chins to achieve more than Khan. Khan's issues are more than just a weak chin.
     
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  9. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what exactly prevents him from countering?
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nothing really, he showed signs he could learn to counter early on with Hunter but he quickly reverted back to his old ways. Fact is he goes full on defensive when he faces aggression and puts himself in positions where he can't counter, such as being too far out of range to land.
     
  11. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Might it be that to counter he would need to risk his weak chin and he tries to avoid it by not countering?
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you have good defence then that's not an issue. Fighters with good defence when moving to avoid a punch will put themselves in a position to be able to counter, poor defensive fighters with put themselves in a position where they maybe not be able to be hit, but also where they can't counter either, which means their opponent can keep coming knowing that nothing will come back.

    In the Petersen fight it wasn't Khan's chin that was an issue it was how predictable he was and how easily backed up and defensive he was when faced with aggression. It allowed Petersen to control the pace of the fight and to be able to fight in spurts and pick his moments.

    Even with these flaws he was a world class operator, but he needed the skills to go along with the talent to take him to the next level.
     
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  13. goku23

    goku23 Member Full Member

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    his defence and ring IQ is a bigger problem than his chin. He got levelled by Prescott, Garcia and Canelo but I think a lot of top fighters would've been floored by those shots, but a lot of top fighters wouldn't have taken those shots in the first place. Showed a decent chin against Maidana
     
  14. bubbrubb

    bubbrubb Member Full Member

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    I don't really care about his chin.. I care about heart and he had it. all his fights were entertaining.

    but yes...with a solid chin he would be p4p fo sho
     
  15. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what I understand you are saying is that his lack of skill exacerbates his chin weakness and that is his real problem. Well, if indeed all he needs is the acquisition of skills to fix the problem-and he wants to fix the problem-then what is the problem? An inability to learn? A reluctance to put in the necessary effort? If those are the reasons then he is very likely doomed to ultimate failure.