How great was Gene Tunney really?

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  1. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    I was looking at Tunney's record and I noticed that his biggest wins against: Dempsey, Greb (most), Gibbons, Carpentier, Smith, Levinsky are all after their primes (pre-prime in the case of Tommy Loughran). There is also the glaring absence of black contenders from the 1920s. Can Tunney really be a top-ballot ATG if we take all this into consideration?
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, he's certainly no where near the top 10 or 15 probably. But I suspect he's better than some people have him rated.
     
  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What I can say is that he was a beautiful, beautiful fighter. Greb prepared him for Dempsey expertly with how comfortable Gene was inside. Same thing that in big part let Conn trouble Louis so much. Those sneaky bursts of educated wrestling and space negotiation chipping away at the clock and zeroing initiative earned laborously after chasing them around the ring.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Overrated resume, but H2H demigod at light heavy
     
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  5. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was probably the GOAT when he retired. He beat everyone he got in the ring with and for his era(not the one that came after)his resume is amazing.

    If you include a pre 1930s HW on your all time list it should be Gene Tunney.

    In terms of Willis Dempsey is the one who should have fought him. Willis had an interim reign of sorts from when he beat Firpo(he was supposed to fight Dempsey instead). This ended before Tunney could have fought him when he lost to Sharkey and Uzcudin.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    I don’t know about HW or LHW rankings all time etc unless it’s very obvious… however another obvious fact is he was one of the finest boxers I’ve ever seen on film.
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Probably stacks up better head to head than h does on terms of resume.
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I heard he was really smart. He read books and stuff.
     
  9. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    Excellent tactician with awesome speed and movement, under appreciated at his time due to his defensive style but a master boxer who would ask serious questions of any similarly sized boxer

    Also as a Heavyweight was undefeated
     
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    The "Long Count" truly changed boxing history.
     
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  11. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't be an ass.....(Asking too much I know)...
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    lol!
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tunney was the prototype of Lebron James wearing non-prescription glasses and flaunting Malcolm X's Autobiography perpetually bookmarked at page 8.
     
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  14. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Gene Tunney is the predecessor of 2016 Finals LeBron.

    Poor Corbett, was only the 2011 Finals LeBron.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He definitely manufactured a certain image for himself, but that is a smart thing to do in it's own right.
     
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