How great was Ray Leonard really?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by redrooster, Nov 9, 2007.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Im not bitter towards Norris ,I dont even think about him.,he was a comet that soared briefly then swiftly fell to earth,a good but not great fighter imo.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Griffith had a longer career at Welter than SRL ,but he also lost 5 times at the weight ,SRl didnt,and Leonards opponents matchup well for quality with Griffiths.Imo there wasnt much to choose between Griffith and Rodriguez ,and how many put Luis in their top 10 at welter?
     
  3. Manassa

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    Wind-ups? I can assure you, this is no wind-up.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    I pass.
     
  5. Manassa

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    The only people who don't rate Luis Rodriguez in their top eleven or twelve welterweights are the same people who don't rate Harold Johnson in their top eleven or twelve light heavyweights. That they don't feature in many top tens is not a product of their mediocrity, but how forgotten they are.
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manassa is not joking now.

    If you'r going to make a ranking, Luis must be 11-15 or even higher. I fully understand what he was about and what he did but who was Joe Wolcott?
     
  7. SugarRay

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    Sorry dude, they were not the same size. Leonard was bigger. Leonard was a welterweight and could have fought at a higher weights in his prime without much physical disadvantage. Can't say the same for Duran.
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Its all been a wind up mate. Just trying to be and not be like Rooster over the last few posts.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That doesn't make sense.
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It makes perfect sense. In other words "taking the ****"
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it's not effective. You're just letting off steam without accomplishing anything. If you want put the other guy in his place or frustrate him, you got to ask relevent questions and when they don't give you a straight answer you'll know you've hit their weak spot. What happens is they try to dance around it as you saw with Woddy and friends. Someone else got offended and stuck his nose in to his regret. Then this person began complaining I was "regurgitating" but this regurgitating is what I use to hammer away at the opposing view. I keep asking the same question to force an answer and when they do, the answers are so bad i can see why they took so long to answer. The last thing they want to do is answer! to this day I still haven't received an adequate explanation as to how Ray Leonard could prove to be so mobile in a fight and perform so well and then suddenly become a shot fighter in his next fight.

    The truth is they all know the truth which pains us all and that is that Terry Norris owned Ray Leonard because Ray didn't have the style to deal with him as Julian Jackson did.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I was fooling around, and not really trying to be effective. And I never let off steam, not my style. One thing, I'm bombproof to getting wound up on a boxing forum.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are pretty cool and I've never known you to lose your composure unlike some other people here. By the way, what is your favorite Ray Leonard performance? Mine is the Dave Green fight.
     
  14. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Finch, Hagler, Lalonde.

    I'm getting the Green and Price fights soon.