How great would DLH have been....?

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  1. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he had not lost to anyone so far? I know its crazy since its a what if question but another thread got me thinking and DLH has faced all the top guys throughout his whole career.
    How great would he be considered if he had not lost any of his fights until now or just lost the Hopkins fight since i believe he was way out of his leage in size?

    I for one think he could have been top 5 ATG had this happened.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    there is also the case of how you win fights, not just winning them

    But lets say he had shown in all his fights that he was without a doubt better than his opponent, then yea top5 or maybe even the best ever.

    I mean his quality of opposition is undeniable.
     
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  3. Mind Reader

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    I think Oscar has had the most challenging career of all time, Its just a shame all the great names on his resume were not wins.... If they were, i think he would be the GOAT. Just losing to Hopkins I would say still a top 10.
     
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  4. FINITO

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    He'd be in the same breath as Rocky Marciano. A great undefeated fighter who beat alot of aging opponents.
     
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  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Mayweather, Trinidad, Mosley twice.... Three great names that were in their prime when Oscar lost to them.... Hopkins was damn near his prime too, also the much larger man.
     
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  6. imp4pdabest

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    Oh, DLH would be one of the best fighters to lace em up. He would've beat Mosley 2x, Hopkins, Tito & PBF(I wont include Pac)

    He would've been one of the top 5.
     
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  7. smitty_son408

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    Anywhere from GOAT to top 10.
     
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  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I think so too... He would for sure have at least an argument of the greatest ever... Especially considering the size difference between him and Hopkins.:yep
     
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  10. smitty_son408

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  11. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who do u guys think is the best name on his resume?
    Im not talking about prime name either just ATG name on DLHs resume
    Also how many ATGs and HOF has Oscar fought?
     
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  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Trinidad
     
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  13. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Whitaker or Chavez would be the greatest names, though they were not prime fighters.

    Whitaker
    Chavez
    Hopkins
    Mosley
    Trinidad
    Mayweather
    Pacquiao

    Are all sure ATG's in my opinion.
     
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  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I think that a case can be made for him winning every fight outside of Hopkins and Pac.... of course Mosley won the first fight as well in a close one. Everyone knows that Oscar was robbed against Tito and Mosley II... however, I think a case can be made for him against Mayweather as well.

    However, that would still leave him with wins over...

    Trinidad
    Mosley (second fight)
    Whitaker
    Chavez (twice)
    Quartey
    Vargas
    Mayorga
    Mayweather
    Ruelas
    Camacho
    Gatti
    Castillejo
    Carr
    Campas
    Forbes
    Gonzalez
    Hernandez
    Leija
    Paez
    Molina

    Even if you take Mayweather out since it was a close fight that could be scored either way.....and just give him the fights he was outright robbed in... His resume is still amazingly great. It is even without being given those wins.
     
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  15. Jack Presscot

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    He never beat Trinidad or Mosley. And his "wins" over Sturm and Whitaker and Quartey are among the worst travesties in the History of All Sports.
     
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