How hard did Jeffries hit?

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who ever said he would beat Jeffries?
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    I'm sure they would have been blown away by that completely ineffective combo, which mostly just missed.
     
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  3. Tonto62

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    Yeah here we go," I don't have time" . How was the Ruhlin that Fitzsimmons had half killed when he fought Jeffries and retired on his feet? You told us Jeffries has some quick kayos I proved they were all over 3rdraters and old men Want to debate that fact?
    You made this silly thread to lick Jeffries ass yet again, and try and claim he was some monster puncher.he wasn't,and his results emphatically show it!
     
  4. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jeffries manager climbed up on the ring apron, threw his trainer Tommy Ryan out of the corner and told Jeffries he had to ko Corbett or lose his title.Thats how competitive it was!
     
  5. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No evidence to support this bull****.
    Jeffries scaled
    210= Corbett 2
    219 = Fitz 2
    218=Ruhlin2
    218= Corbett 1
    218 =Sharkey 2
    210= Fitz 1

    Chuvalo scaled
    216 = Ali 2
    208=Patterson
    212 =DeJohn
    217=Frazier
    217=Quarry
    212=Folley
    215=Bonavena
    Nothing in it, and they were both 6 foot!
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    That ineffective combo? It floored Ramos hard.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    He was winning the rounds from the 16th or so onwards, however, and scored a knock down in the 19th, if I remember right. By the end Corbett was pretty much just running away.

    The tide turned long before Corbett was stopped.
     
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  8. Tonto62

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    How many of the first16 rounds did he win?
     
  9. BitPlayerVesti

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    I watched from the 58 second mark, which was him getting up, so I thought you meant after that

    Watching the earlier one, Jeffries doesn't throw any longer combos in the little footage we have of him. The old cameras make it a lot of guess work, but I don't see the quickness of that combo looking beyond Jeffries' hand speed
     
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    Dunno, he seems to have won some of the first 10 rounds, atleast by some reports.

    70's said until Jeffries knocked him out anyway, not until the 16.
     
  11. Tonto62

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    Corbett had a clear lead going into the 23rd round.
     
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    And he just fighting to survive at that point, and had been for multiple rounds.
     
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  13. Tonto62

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    Had he survived those 3 rounds he would have been champ.
     
  14. HOUDINI

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    If you watch Jeffries bout with Ruhlin he appears to throw a triple left hook. Camera technology is so poor it’s tough to make out fine details. If you ignore first hand accounts which I suggest you don’t we have very little to allow us to determine Jeffries greatness.
     
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    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For those of you who don't know, there was an older guy who used to post here until a couple months ago who was a seemingly inexhaustible fund of primary source knowledge, often apparently off the top of his head, and as I recall he once supplied what appeared to me pretty reliable accounts of Jeffries' PSI test performance, along with Fitz and Sam McVey. I think Jeffries' score was supposed to be 1150 and Fitz 1050 (?!? holy **** if true) and McVey was slightly higher than Jeffries.
     
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