How hard is Ortiz kicking himself?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not really.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Look at this fickle bitch shitting on Luis Ortiz's resume before he fought Jennings:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/resume-hypocrisy-ortiz.554032/#post-17619987

    But now he's oh-so-proven, right? Let's see, what has Ortiz done since andrew made the above thread? He beat...Jennings, okay. And?

    Malik Scott
    Dave Allen
    Daniel Martz
    Razvan Cojanu
    Travis Kauffman
    Christian Hammer

    Wow. Stuff of legend. So proven.
     
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  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This reminds me kind of... of that time Will Purdue was crying tears of joy after the Bulls won their 3rd championship, and that irked Jordan. Anyone remember why?
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Dismissive maybe, but not all out hating.:nusenuse: Andrew's a good natured well meaning guy, who's never been too vindictive or mean spirited so I didn't read it as such, granted I might have had more or at least different interactions with him than you. So maybe you are right.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He's a complete and utter belligerent dink, and has been on thin ice for a while now.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :lol: Eh... nevermind. That's pretty damning.:lol:
     
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  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ugh yea, a guy whose two faced in a serious way.
     
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  8. kirk

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    Ruizs speed and combination punching played as much a factor as did counter punching.

    Ortiz only does one of those three things as good as Ruiz. Ruiz is much better at closing the distance, is much faster and throws more effective combinations.

    The role Ruizs speed and punches in bunches played in mugging AJ cant be understated.

    Also... you say wait til Ruiz beats another top 20 heavyweight, but plenty of people had him beating Parker, and even if you didnt, surely that fight was competitive enough to help act as a further indicator as to Ruizs level.

    That being said... I do agree the Ortiz from the first Wilder fight, let alone the Jennings fight, would be a huge test for AJ and him winning would not suprise me at all.

    But the Jennings fight was years ago and hes now been KO'd in the meantime, which does old fighters no favors. Hes begun to show his decline, imo. Todays Ortiz would likely have been stopped.
     
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  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I dont think it was a cycling issue... I think his handlers were already commited to a Wilder fight.
     
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  10. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ortiz would have been the easier fight style wise for AJ but a far more serious fight bc mistakes would have to made limited in that one unlike the other so .....

    Southpaw to AJ = Counter right hand from hell.
     
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  11. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Ortiz is too slow on his feet and he doesnt have the combination punching of Ruiz...
     
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  12. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Different fight altogether.
     
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  13. reckless

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    Credit to Ruiz but Joshua had him down and got hurt when he got too over confident trying to finish him off. I expect Joshua to fight a lot more conservatively next time around. Lewis vs Tua II.
     
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  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Lol smoked.
    Ortiz is nothing like Ruiz, to say he would have beaten AJ clearly on Saturday is ignorant.
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    That’s as good as some of the Euro trash resumes I see and those guys are held up as super credible lol.
     
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