How Harmful Will Wladimir Klitschko's Unavenged...

Thats good to hear Mendoza, but the question is back in 1990s-2003, he was simply an amazing two fisted puncher with a devastating left hook. Has wlad abandoned that left hook and became to right hand prone?

 

Since you are in the gym, ask someone who has sparred with Wlad. They will say this. He his unbelievably hard, and fast when he wants to open up. I have heard this from sources, which include third party managers.

Wlad is good enough to win fights without even throwing a single right hand. I think he has better one punch power and speed now in comparison to his 20's.

Wlad does not need to fight wreckless anymore. He's got the best high guard in the division, keeps the right high to block hocks, and moves his feet to zone his man where he can land, but the other guy can’t.

Fighters are terrified of Wlad’s right hand and hook.

 

Wlad hasn't had a chance to panic because he hasn't been pushed. Who is he gonna panic against, a terrified Ibragimov

I do agree he's shown improvement, especially in his patience and defense, but a chin is a chin.

 

Do you ever do research?

Sanders was rated in the top 10 by the WBC, WBO, IBF and Ring Magazine at some or many times during his career.

 

Yes I do research and I am right in this case. Sanders was never rated by the annuel RING MAGAZINE until he Beat Wlad. Up until the Wlad fight, sanders had never beaten a Ring Magazine rated contender either. I dont even remember a monthly issue were sanders was ever rated until beating wlad. Sanders was rated a bunch of times AFTER he beat wlad, but even after he beat wlad.....he never went on to beat a single rated contender. His whole career is based off the incredible wlad upset, without that no one would even know who he was.


I don't go by Alphabet soup rankings, there bogus and corrupt and ridiculous.

 

Not at all. Every heavweight ATG has damaging losses (except Rocky of course) and the difference is Wlad's will all be early and he will show enough improvement and do enough damage in the division to make them nothing more than a footnote.

 

Bull****. I have a Ring's from 93 where he is ranked in the top 10 (he's on the cover of the rag) and from the Cole/Rahman era where he is in the top 10. Should I go dig these out from my basement. He went in the dark after the Nate Tubbs loss but redeemed himself against Cole & Czyz. He was on there plenty of times.

Besides, I trust the WBC, WBA and IBF more than Steve Farhood's abortion of a publication.

 

Like I said he was never rated in the Ring Magazine Annuel Ratings up until knocking out Wlad. He made a couple monthly issues, sure but so did alot of journeyman at times briefly, which is exactley what corrie sanders was 3/4 of his career.......A one hit wonder journeyman. How he even got into the monthly 1993 ratings(according to you) is ludicrous considering he had not beaten one top 50 heavyweight in the world.....You then claim the Czyz and Cole wins as him redeeming himself. redeeming what? Czyz was not a heavyweight and was 100% washed up when he fought sanders, and Cole was a trialhorse who lost every time he stepped up in competition. These wins are nothing more than padding the record, they arn't notable wins nor are they wins over world beaters.

 

Q certainly has an unbiased view of Sanders.

 

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3 questions:


1. What Ring Magazine Heavyweight Contender did Sanders ever beat Pre Wladimir Klitschko?

2. What Ring Magazine Heavyweight contender did Sanders ever beat post Wladimir Klitschko?

3. When was Corrie Sanders ever in a Annuel Ring Magazine list pre Wladimir Klitschko fight?

4. Did Sanders ever beat a heavyweight that was EVER rated in the Annuel Ring Magazine ratings during there career outside of Wladimir?

5. How come When Tubbs Kayoed sanders, he never burst into the top 10 ratings? you think because perhaps sanders was never considered a big deal?

 

His losses will reflect poorly on his overall career. He's already 32 and he's been stopped three times, all in humiliating fashion, by less-than-stellar talents.

 

Thats Pretty Correct. No other way you can spin it. Many Klitschko fans now try to make sanders out to be some freak of nature one of kind southpaw joe louis who would have knocked out many champions . Before the Wlad fight(which he was pretty much a late replacement easy tuneup when 10 other heavyweights turned wlad down ) no one had even heard of this guy. He was just another old man. You can say he underachieved, but you cant use that leverage to rate him on what he could have been or who he could have beat. We have to rate him on what he did.

 

You're choosing to completely and totally ignore one very, very important fact.

Sanders destroyed Wladimir like no fighter ever has.

Guess what fighter he was the most motivated ever for?

He took extended therapy classes before that fight to get himself together mentally for once.

Ignore it if you'd like.

 

This is a totally full of **** argument. I was actually covering the scene (writing pieces for a few magazine you might know) in these days and Corrie was considered a VERY hot commodity. Don King was after him with a huge hard-on but Corrie had signed too much of his money to the wrong people already. Czyz had just given a more prime Holyfield fits in their fight. Cole had never been KD'd, not even by Michael Grant, and Sanders KO'd in 1. Sanders wiped the floor with Bert Cooper not long after his supremely valiant efforts against Moorer and Holyfield.

I know you are young but you are out of your depth in this discussion.