How has AJ not been popped yet?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Luizio, Apr 18, 2019.


  1. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Being tested alot and not failing a test isnt evidence that a boxer is clean.

    We only have to look at the careers of Roy Jones Jr and Evander Holyfield. Two fighters who never ever failed a drugs test which was made public, but were both on PEDs for the majority if not all of their careers.

    I subscribe to the notion that all the top fighters are on stuff, and I am not at all concerned by it. The only issue comes from people who think that everyone is clean, and are on a crusade to expose the "cheats" and get really offended when you accuse their favourite fighter of juicing.

    Everyone is doing it, everyone is a hypocrite. We should just accept that PEDs are part and parcel of boxing and get over it
     
  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just like Evander Holyfield and Roy Jones then. Tested throughout their whole careers and never failed a test.

    But both proven heavy PED users throughout their entire careers.
     
  3. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Many Nigerians get huge without exercise quite naturally in their 20's and early 30's. Then get fat in middle age.

    Superior genetics.

    That's not to say that AJ isn't juicing, but he is Nigerian and would appear to be genetically lucky.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    But they competed in the UK and were tested by UKAD while competing and were caught later from samples taken at the time by UKAD. So they were able to beat the system outside of Russia too.

    Fact is doping control is always an upward battle, they are having to constantly adapt to new ways of cheating. If AJ is dirty he will eventually get caught much like these Russian athletes once testing methods have caught up to methods currently being used to cheat.

    So 10 years from now or so if he still hasn't been caught then he's probably clean. But if he is doping he'll get caught eventually. Though by then he will have retired most likely and made millions and his legacy will be set and much like with Holyfield his cheating will be glossed over when most talk about his legacy.
     
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  5. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    your complaining about a bloke who’s not been found guilty of peds. It seems to me you’re just another salty hater.
     
  6. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is nonsense. Holyfield and Jones were never tested to the degree that Joshua is. In fact in the US, most fighters are only tested on fight night unless they've signed up to VADA. It's a stupid comparison to make.
     
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  7. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're an idiot if you're comparing what Armstrong could get away with to what would be possible to do during a boxing camp.
     
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  8. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're the one that's asserting that it's easy to sidestep the testing so enlighten us as to how. I don't think you've got a clue tbh.
     
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  9. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    Seriously? You name a 90's fighters as an example when everybody was on roids and there was no legit testing?
     
  10. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Interesting narrative... What about Canelo? Explain that one genius.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is true and even if they were tested it would of only been a urine test. Testing in the 90's and before was woeful, I mean Mosley admitted to unknowingly doping as part of the Balco investigation, how many times did he fail a test again, hell was he even tested.

    Jones did fail a test in the Hall fight but because doping control didn't really exists then the local commission didn't report it. Even if they had taken action all they could of done was suspend Roy from fighting in their state and Roy could of kept doping and fighting in other states. That's how messed up boxing is, the lack of one unified body controlling boxing has lead to huge grey areas in regards to responsibility for things like doping control. It's not much better now to be honest, a boxer can fail a test in the UK be suspended by BBBofC then fight in the US or continental Europe because they have no authority in those countries.
     
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  12. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am pointing out that just because you are consistently tested and passing tests it doesnt make you clean

    Lance Armstrong is another example of that.

    You just need to stay ahead of the testers, there is certain doping that you can do which can be done at 10pm at night and is clean out of your system by 6am the following morning. There are masking agents. Get educated
     
  13. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Eddie's mob swapped the bodybuilder's excretement sample with Miller's. Won't be long when they do the same to old grandpa Ortiz when he accepts the fight.
     
  14. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thanks for calling me a genius, I felt a great swell of pride when I read your lovely comment. Best compliment I have had this year.

    Canelo.. I just remember he got a backdated "ban" that basically equated to less than 6 month's and it did not effect his belts or anything else. He has benefited from corruption and is a cheat.
     
  15. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're an idiot.
     
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