How high can Money, Pac and Bhop go ?

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  1. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How high can Money, Pac and Bhop go ?, can any other current performers make the list.

    1] Sugar Ray Robinson
    2] Henry Armstrong
    3] Langford
    4] Greb
    5] Duran
    6] B.Leonard
    7] Wilde
    8] Ali
    9] Louis
    10] Pep
    11] Charles
    12] Fitzsimmons
    13] Gans
    14] R.Leonard
    15] Hagler
    16] Walker
    17] Moore
    18] Jofre
    19] Tunney
    20] Jack Johnson
    21] Monzon
    22] Whitaker
    23] B.Ross
    24] Saddler
    25] Canzoneri
    26] Salvador Sanchez
    27] Babadoes Joe Walcott
    28] Ketchel
    29] I.Williams
    30] Burley
    31] Marciano
    32] Jack Dempsey
    33] Roy Jones Jnr
    34] Holmes
    35] Dixon
    36] Cesar Charvez
    37] Napoles
    38] Arguello
    39] L.Lewis
    40] Kid Gavilan
    41] Hearns
    42] E.Griffith
    43] Packey McFarland
    44] Freddie Welsh
    45] Driscoll
    46] C.Ortiz
    47] Holyfield
    48] Mayweather Jnr
    49] Pacquiao
    50] Harada
    51] Britton
    52] Olivares
    53] M.Spinks
    54] Calzaghe
    55] Hopkins
    56] Wills
    57] W.Gomez
    58] Foster
    59] LM Rodriquez
    60] Villa
    61] Al Brown
    62] M.Ortiz
    63] Dick Tiger
    64] Conn
    65] Attell
    66] Loughran
    67] McLarnin
    68] McGovern
    69] Ted Kid Lewis
    70] Kid Chocolate
    71] Joe Brown
    72] Tiger Flower
    73] Cerdan
    74] Jeffries
    75] Canto
    76] Pascual Perez
    77] T.Ryan
    78] Beau Jack
    79] Angott
    80] Pryer
    81] McCallum
    82] W.Benitez
    83] De La Hoya
    84] Basilio
    85] Gibbons
    86] Kilbane
    87] Jack Blackburn
    88] Ambers
    89] Tyson
    90] H.Williams
    91] Liston
    92] Herman
    93] Philly Jack O'Brien
    94] Billy Graham
    95] Cervantes
    96] Zarate
    97] Giardello
    98] Loi
    99] Buchanan
    100]Laguna

    Pac needs to beat Money to take him, Pac is still in the main fighting fighters over 30 years old and fighters that Money has already beaten {DLH, Hatton and now Mosley}, Bhops got overtaken by Calzaghe after their 2008 bout, will a rematch win over Pascal nudge Bhop ahead ?, Max Kellerman thinks that Calzaghe beats a prime Michael Spinks and Spinks is one place above Calzaghe in the list who is in turn one place above Bhops, should Calzaghe be above M.Spinks ? and could Bhops take the both of them with any future creditable wins ?.
    Can anyoune else break in ?, Ward is just starting out on his career but looks favourite to win the S6 but is having every fight at home, Froch could win it and has been performing against high level performers for a while now and Kessler could come back from injury and beat the S6 winner, having already faced Ward and Froch in the tournie before injury.
    Holyfield is still boxing but could he harm his ranking by continuing fighting ? as there is a chasing pack of active boxers right on his tail.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not sure but I wouldn't have Calzaghe at 54, he only fought bums and old men you know. Jimmy Wilde also only fought bums
     
  3. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    12 of Pacmans last 15 opponents have been the wrong side of 30.
     
  4. punk

    punk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If they fight past their primes, in uncomfortable fights then we can make a comparison. That is the flaw in a lot of debates in boxing.
     
  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Roy jones is too low and so is oscar dela hoya.
    barbados joe walcott certainly too high.
    so are wilde fitzmons and jofre
     
  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe fought only bums and old men.
     
  7. horst

    horst Guest

    Joe Calzaghe's competition was a mixture of the arses and the ancient.
     
  8. horst

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    Joe Calzaghe above Luis Manuel Rodriguez.

    Makes me want to cry.
     
  9. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones is hurting his legacy with every fight, Oscar lost the majority of fights he had against top opposition.
     
  10. horst

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    Almost as much as Jimmy Wilde being above Ezzard Charles. :|
     
  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao is already in my top 10. Mayweather is defiantley in my top 40.

    Hopkins fought only lightweights and welterweights
     
  12. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    well, i think it's tricky considering you provided a list. this question depends on how we place them based off your list, which would require comparing them to the fighters provided.

    overall, i think pac can go top 10 (BIG stretch but possible), mayweather (money? **** no...in that case i change my name to duke of awesome) can go as high as bottom of top 15, and bhop could make top 20 with a win over pascal, dominating light heavy and taking a heavy belt
     
  13. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i've seen wilde on top 10 lists before and i just don't get it. tremendous puncher, best welsh fighter ever and amazing accomplishments considering the time but name the top 3 fighters he beat? he really doesn't have the fighters on his ledger to rate anywhere near that high
     
  14. HOW ! Can Jack Dempsey be above Floyd Mayweather Jr no way is that right , plus James Toney should deffinitly be on that list i can see 5 which dont could be replaced by Toney
     
  15. horst

    horst Guest

    Ever heard of Antonio Tarver, Kelly Pavlik, Jean Pascal or Glen Johnson? Or any of the countless others who Hopkins outboxed that do not fit the 'light and welter' description??