How high can Money, Pac and Bhop go ?

His resume is nowhere near top 10 calibre, but the very idea of him being above a top 5 history's elite fighter like Charles is exactly the sort of garbage I now thoroughly expect from this guy.

His ranking of Jimmy McLarnin is obscene as well.

 

Pacquiao is inside my top 30 already, and will probably wind up a top 20 ATG when it's all said and done. Top 10 is possible, I guess, but he'd need wins over Mayweather and Martinez for it to be considered.

Floyd will probaly end up somewhere inside the top 40 if he continues to fight. If he beats Pacquiao decisively and retires undefeated, than top 30 is fine. As it is, he would probably just sneak into my top 50.

Hopkins is top 40 or 45 for me, and could potentially end up inside the top 30, maybe even close to 20. Any win at this stage is big for his legacy, and it sure seemed like he's still the best Light Heavyweight on the planet in his last fight.

 

the flyweight will need a win over a powerful, large middleweight at least? Well i believe he's more than capable, no ****ing problem.

 

Ever heard of Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins? OH!

giggidy

 

it sounds strange but yeah, to be top 10. pacquaio didn't have the opportunity to fight that many ATGs in his time or in their prime so he has to make up for it with weight jumping and title collecting

 

True. Though i think there should be a sub category for guys like Pacquiao, Greb and Armstrong etc who defy the odds..

Or maybe even though other fighters could be ranked above them, they deserve a definate ranking more, entitled to a less subjective and opinionated ranking.

Am i making sense? Having trouble putting my thoughts into words

 

Pacquiao isn't a Flyweight....

 

If he was an actual flyweight fighting these guys, than he'd definitely be top 10 already. Too bad he was 19 the last time he weighed 112lbs, getting knocked out in 3 rounds. Now that he's fully matured, Manny naturally belongs at 140lbs I'd say. And you're right, he is capable of beating Martinez. That'd be huge.

 

neither is your mum. OH...OH!!

 

Martinez isn't a powerful, large Middleweight, either...

 

But he'd beat Pac for my money

Pac's a mesomorph who finds it easy to gain muscle, that doesn't make him the best ever at any weight class, but he probably gets a little underrated H2H on this forum

 

I think Pac's mystique gets overrated based on the fact that he'd fare well enough against the top guys over so many weights. From about 122-140 he could hold his own with most, although I tend to believe he'd lose to most of the truly elites/bad stylistic matchups. He's just below the top tier in each of the divisons he's competed in, but capable of fighting competitively in more divisions than those same contemporaries who may beat him at one. More a physical phenomenon than anything.

 

The pac underrated H2H thing is because he usually crops up against fighters who are considered by most to be among the absolute elite at their natural weight.Duran, Leonard, Whitaker etc. while himself usually has less to go on at the weight in question and is often smaller.

Not saying he shouldnt be put in those kind of bouts, especially around 130, but i agree with what Bujia is saying as well, he's spread himself widely, which is the appeal i suppose.That he can do the weight jumping thing like few others.

 

Pacquaio top 25

Jones top 35

Hopkins top 45

Mayweather top 45 but behind Hopkins by a little bit.

Calzaghe top 100?