How high do you currently rate Pacs chances of beating Oscar?

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  1. NALLEGE

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    quote=bulakenyoDo you mean you have never tried predicting an outcome of an upcoming fight? Isnt that called imagining? You take into account each fighter's strong points and weak points, and then you imagine what is likely to happen in the fight, in your opinion.


    No, "imagining" if Dlh lands and how PAc will react is not the same as saying "If" Dlh lands. Imagine and opinion do not have the same definition.



    But a lot of those guys prime KO wins were mostly at 122. (except for JMM, 126)

    It's a whole different league, receiviing punches from a powerhitting featherweight, and receiving punches from a powerhitting welterweight.

    This is all true. I'm not sure what your point is, and how it refers to anything WE are talking about. There is no guarantee Dlh will win. I'd side with you on the issue if Dlh were in his prime, but he isn't.

    I agree. That's what I think. ODLH is just too big, too experienced at the higher weight, a more natural 147 lbs fighter and has better punch resistance against hits from bigger fighters. The guy has never been KO'd via a punch to the head. Tough nut to crack.

    That is why Pac took this fight. It's why Sugar took the fight with Hagler. It's why Duran took the fight with Leonard. It's why Floyd took the fight with Dlh. It's why Greb took the fight with Tunney. Beating the bigger man is a thrill in itself. Making big money doing it is the icing on the cake. The basketball analogy was okay, but it does not describe the experience/difference between Pac and Dlh.
     
  2. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Anyway..

    In your opinion, (not your imagination) :cool: what do you think will most likely happen in the fight?
     
  3. Jack Presscot

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    Sweetheart, I am going to be following your lame ass around ESB exposing you for the poser that you are, for the rest of your stay here. I post at 3am, at 5am, at 11pm, whenever I feel like embarrasing your ass for what it is. A man who could never land the woman on your own avatar, except for jacking off all over your monitor.
     
  4. NALLEGE

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    First off, I just wanted to say you are a first class poster. Dlh's best win is his career is the fight with Ike Quartey. You can throw in Vargas, and some lower level but good fighters also. Pac has beaten in his fans minds 3 of the best fighters of our generation and is ranked pfp best by Ring Mag. Pac has beaten the more high profile fighter than Dlh. Dlh has fought the better comp and has won and lost at that level. To say Pac has little to no chance is not mathematically not correct even though it is your opinion...lol.

    I see Pac's speed and southpaw style giving Dlh trouble. Dlh has a granite chin, and good defense. Dlh is also 35 years old. Pac takes more chances than Forbes, and he has more power. Forbes even though he didn't hurt Dlh in their fight, he puffed his face up. But Forbes is a better pure boxer than Pac. But Pac is also more of an animal than Forbes(aggressiveness). Dlh also has to lose a lot of weight. Dlh isn't going to move a lot in this fight. I think Pac can find a way to chip away at Dlh. Pac's only disadvantage in this fight is his reach imo. If he allows Dlh to land his jab, he will be countered. If Pac uses his speed and his feints, he can keep Dlh at bay and maybe turn him into an aggressive fighter which plays into Pac's hands. Can Dlh get to Pac's body. If the new weight slows PAc down enough maybe, but I doubt it.

    Pac when he is pushed gets very aggressive, and that is his gift along with his speed. The great fighters when hit like Holyfield do not sit back and let a guy beat them up. I liken this fight to Bowe-Holyfield in a sense that Holy was at a physical disadvantage to Bowe while Golota wasn't. My point is that with Pac's exceptional speed and power, Pac's superb conditioning will help him defeat Dlh because imo he will be a step faster than Dlh the whole night. He can't relax against Dlh or he is dead meat. Pac ko in 9.
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    Why do you love talking about *****'s in every post lol:nut You aren't a bologna smuggler are you? When are you going to change your avy lol. You like Mr. Dukes dook huh lol. You weren't threatening me with the above post lol...were you? Man, I'll slap your mother right in front of you lol. ***s, oral sex and cold sores...lol. You are a grown man lol. You truly love to hide salami lol.
     
  6. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Thanks, NALLEGE. I dont really post in the general forum so much, though. I'm mostly a lurker.

    What kinda worries me is Manny, being a lefty, usually circles to his right shoulder when he fights, to maximize the effectiveness of his lefty stance.

    But doing that lines him up directly towards the path of Oscars left hook. withe each connection, the damage would be magnified because Pac's body is going right on the path of Oscar's punch.

    And if Manny tries to circle to his left shoulder, he'll now be more open for a DLH right straight, and you know that lefties are susceptible for those punches. I dont care if Oscar was never known for his right hand power, but a solid hit is still a solid hit.

    Tricky situation for Pac. I guess he needs MORE, MORE, MORE movement and getting out of the killzone after throwing his punches. :think
     
  7. Jack Presscot

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    I'll bet you keep a bottle of Windex handy next to your monitor, Mastrubationege!:yep
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    Pac will be instructed to move to Dlh's right which means he will be moving to his left. Pac wants to stay away from Dlh's hook. Dlh isn't going to back up. Pac is going to feint and throw his big left or he will counter Dlh's right hand when he throws and misses it. Pac has to just stay fast imo that's all.
     
  9. NALLEGE

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    That was so damn corny lol. Hey if you like blonds, it's ok. Wanda Sykes is out, so go ahead...take the plunge. I am Jack "Duke" Prescott, and Im a fruit lol...
     
  10. Jack Presscot

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    1st I wanted to say that you know less boxing than even an Oscarsexual, like Widdowmaker. Anyone who thinks DLH's best win was against Ike Quartey is a crackhead. Do you like to suck on the Glass pipe, **** Po' Nallege? Why I'll bet if you run out of 20 dollar bills, you'll suck a flesh pipe in order to buy a few rocks to smoke in your mom's bathroom. But thats another post for another time. Ike Quartey won that fight, but lost out to shady judges and Boxing Politics on HBO or "Home of Beloved Oscar" No way Ike was going to take that decision. Vargas was a good victory. I heard Oscar still sends Tito thank you cards for softening his ass up. Pac has beaten some good smaller fighters, but no one who could have stood up to a real 147 pound champion.


    "Forbes is a better pure boxer than Pac" Wow. Anyway, Oscar is pushing 36, and Pac's main weapon is his hand and footspeed. If he can somehow get inside that jab, and keep it a dirty ass inside fight, he should be able to rack up the points, and bang away at Oscar's tender left side, the same one that almost made him vomit in 2004 when Borenard tapped him on the liver. DLH has been shitting water for 2 months and eating hay and grain to make this 147 weight. This will affect both his strength and his stamina and legs past the 7th, as usual.

    It would be wonderful and funny as Hell if Little Verne "Troyer" Pacquaio could KAYO the Golden Panties, but I see it as more of Oscar running out of steam past the 7th. He will flurry and hit nothing for 6 rounds the way he did against PBF last year. Should lead to Manny Pac taking over rounds 7-12. If the judges just give one other round to MP and there are no BS kds or point deductions, look for a Manny Pac UD or even an SD, knowing the Oscarsexual judges of Vegas.
     
  11. bulakenyo

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    I'm absolutely gonna come in my pants if ever Pac does pull this thing off. :lol::lol:

    I still remember the days when I was so mad at Manny's manager for even floating the idea of going up from 112 to face guys like Johnny Tapia, Paulie Ayala and Tim Austin. I thought he would be massacred.

    He's come a long way.

    Still very doubtful of his chances, though.
     
  12. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    :lol:

    You crazy fockers. Dont mind me, go on with the show.

    :pop