How high would you rate Benny Leonard P4P

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old ladys and kids also ? or are they to strong for you ?? a real hero, pffffffffffft

 

You're confusing fighters from the 1920s with fighters from the 1900s. And there is a real difference. The Walker Law is the cut-off -1920. That was as good a year as any to distinguish modern boxing from it's earlier incarnation during the gloved era. Capping off the rounds at 15 rounds, requiring licenses, distinguishing weight classes, penalizing rough tactics like headbutting, etc...

I don't like what I see in Corbett's film -and the grainy, off-speed condition doesn't explain everything. But Benny Leonard, Mickey Walker, et al, look good. In fact, they combined the best of both worlds... they came out of the rougher, tougher pre-Walker Law era, and their science was excellent.

 

Benny Leonard did not realise his pound for pound potential, due to the politics of the era.

Let him off the leash and you have a two division champ.

 

By all acounts he could do everything in a boxing ring. He could out box anyone. When he wanted to he could knock them out as well. He is as good as a defensive boxer as anyone.
7 and a half years as lightweight champion, in an eara that many boxing historians consider to be among the best in lightweight history.
He is at the very least the best lightweight of all time. I would also fell confortable picking in any head to head match up at the weight.

The only thing going against him is that he was only a lightweight champion. the light welterweight devision did not exesit than. He was DQ'd in a fight against Jack Britton for the welterweight championship.

All things considered I rank him #1

 

great post. i put only Duran in front of him and that's cause I was a teen in the 70s watching Duran. The only reason he was dq'd they said is because he didn't want the welter title. So when Britton was on his way down, Leonard hit him, getting dq'd.:worm:bush

 

Greb?

 

hope this helps

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/greb2.htm

 

Mincing your words never helps.

Benny Leonard remains, to this day, the greatest fighter from the vintage 135 lbs mark. The breadth of quality is irrefutable. If we bring along his biggest threats their records are in need of one helluva wax job to aid in a vain comparison.

There is a reason why the word 'league' fits nicely into boxing, and Benny Leonard is a principle catalyst for the blunt noun.

Nobody should rate higher than him; that they do is not a crime, but the rigid perspective used for selection is. Ted Spoon once read that Benny Leonard was not in possession of a full skill-set, that due to his untimely stigma of existing in the dreaded 'pre-modern' era.

 

i always think of the 30's as the start of the modern era,with louis,armstrong,ross,kid berg,canzoneri and benny lynch all looking superb

 

This just came out. In case you missed it:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/7572/eighth-god-war-benny-leonard/

 

He deserves to be top 10 but just outside is cool and thats probably where I have him. Any lower is just selling him short.