How highly did you rate Lennox Lewis's power?

Riddick Bowe was not considered a big puncher. I mean, he was a big, heavy man, but he was not a big hitter. And I don't see anything Foreman threw as being harder shot-for-shot than Lewis' right hand. The same goes for Morrison.

 

Lewis was 9/10 he was a giant with a tremendous Right hand. His left, was a significant drop off from his right. The only reason I don't score him a perfect 10 is all the fighters with great chins were never knocked off their feet by him. This can be attributed to Lennox boxing more than fully committing and also for the fighter to get defensive after tasting his power. However, the fact remains he couldn't drop Holyfield in either fight. Couldn't drop Mercer. Couldn't drop McCall. Vitali or Tua as well as Mavrovic. Still he was a beast. But I reserve the 10/10 power for the guys that blast out the previously iron chinned guys. Like Dempsey did, tyson in his prime etc.

 

Anthony Holyfield fought both Tyson, Lewis and Foreman and said Foreman punched harder. Bowe was able to knock Holyfied out. Holyfield fans will tell you he was washed up. In that case then why couldn't Tyson or Lewis knock Holyfield out afterwards or even hurt him period?

Ray Mercer fought Tommy Morrison and Lennox Lewis and stated Morrison hit him way harder than Lennox Lewis ever did.

Jack Dempsey blasted out who? 190 pound guys and a few big oafs like Jess Willard? Yep that clearly means you are a 10 out of 10 puncher right? And no fighter who fought Tyson, Lewis, Morrison, Foreman or Bowe stated Tyson punched harder.

Tyson didn't know out anybody who was considered world class or known for having a great chin. Bowe was able to hurt Holyfield with his power, Foreman was able to hurt a prime Holyfield with his power. Tyson couldn't hurt a shop worn Holyfield but clearly that means his power is great huh? Funny stuff "The Long Count"

 

I thought you blocked me hamburger please do so again I don't have the time to waste on a buffoon such as yourself.
For the record for others on this site with a brain I cited Tyson and Dempsey as examples for just a few of the following reasons. Tyson was the first to stop the previously iron chinned pinklon Thomas. Also the first and only man to stop either Holmes or Spinks. Was only one of two men to stop berbick etc etc.
Dempsey one needs to look no further than Jess Willard for the damage he could inflict. And if that wasn't enough there were the firpo and Fulton fights and the only man to floor Tunney.

 

You can't really blame Lennox for that. Hardly ANYONE could drop these guys.

 

Can only guage power by its effectiveness. He was very consistent. In retrospect he knocked out the guys that a big hitter was expected to knock out and barely moved the more durable guys. I wouldn't put him up there with someone like Joe Louis who seemed capable of dropping and stopping anyone regardless of how durable or tough they were regarded previously but a notch below.

 

Funnily enough, no one ever stopped McCall ( I don't count the breakdown in the ring ) no one ever stopped Tua, no one ever stopped Mavrovic, and Mercer was only ever stopped when he was 41, and 45 years old respectively.

But hey, if someone is a Lewis hater, they'll cling on to anything to criticise him. Just treat them with the contempt they deserve. I do.

 

I don't see how giving Lewis a 9 out of 10 is hater in anyway. I also didn't say stop but said dropped. Mercer was put down by Holyfield and stopped later in his career. Holyfield was stopped by Bowe and Toney. No one hating I just don't classify him at 10. Ten is for guys who fought those iron chinned guys and put them down like Louis did to Uzcudun etc.

 

He barely moved the more durable guys ?

Razor Ruddock had two brutal bouts of give and take with Tyson and Lewis crushed him in a round and one half. Andrew Golata took the best a faded but still hard punching Bowe could throw but Lewis crushed him in seconds. He flattened Rachman with one shot. He bounced undefeated Micheal Grant like a rubber ball .. He rocked the steel chinned Vitali. He simply fought in an age where there were a few guys with all time great chins ( Mercer, McCall and Tua ) and another in Mavrovic. I hardly think Shavers or Foreman would have done better and in fact both might have lost to Mercer and Tua .. as far as Holyfield goes, in addition to his iron chin he was a difficult target and used his movement well against Lennox

Lewis was a huge heavyweight puncher.

 

The long count you are a moron and I just forgot to block you but now let me put you on ignore ******.

Dempsey knocked out Firpo? Do that deserves a cookie? Angel Rodriguez a 167 pound knocked him out in 1 round so apparently that means Angel Rodriguez is one of the hardest punchers of all time right? Luis Firpo was a big nobody. Out of his first 25 wins 13 people had a losing record.

Jess Willard was a big guy with no skill. Joe Cox a guy who was 1-3 knocked Willard out before he even got in the ring with Dempsey so he is a hard puncher too right?

Fred Fulton another 200 pound plus guy who fought a bunch of 180 pound or less guys.
Al Palzer a guy who was 8-3 knocked out Fulton years before Dempsey did so is he going to ranked highly on your punching power list?

As I said Dempsey never knocked out anybody worth mentioning.

 

Also only man to stop Billy miske and a prime Bill Brennan too for those ppl out there that question the ferocity of the Dempsey power. Although only a fool would argue that Dempsey wasn't a great hitter.

 

That's what I wrote.

I don't believe anything in this paragraph contradicts what I already wrote.

So did Joe Louis.

Eh...that's your opinion I suppose, but Foreman would be heavily favored over Mercer or Tua.

Lewis tagged Holyfield clean quite a bit.

He was.

 

1. Toney stopped Holyfield with a body shot, so his chin had nothing to do with that fight.

2. Are you claiming that Bowe had more power because he stopped Holyfield, when Lewis didn't?

 

And Holyfield dropped Mercer with a body shot, I am just saying that these durable men were floored.

No I am in no way suggesting Bowe was a bigger puncher than Lewis as good as Bowe was, Lewis had more power and a better career. I am saying that Holyfield wasn't indestructible and the fact Lewis didn't knock him down in 24 rounds hurts his chances, along with the case of the other fighters I listed as being a 10/10 hW in terms of power.

I still don't see how 9/10 makes me a hater as you claim. I wouldn't claim you to be a Lewis fanboy because you demand Lewis should be rated higher than a 9. Although that is far more likely he case than me being a hater. 9 out of 10 is a huge terrific puncher and I place Lewis higher than Holyfield, Bowe and tyson on my ATG list. Some people get so sensitive over Lewis on this site.

 

I think the guys Lennox didnt put away just meant he wasn't committing himself to land the haymaker. That's what was frustrating about the Holyfield fight, you had the feeling he could have taken Holy out but he just didn't commit himself. He sometimes feared the counter too much, especially with fighters he respected. When he did commit, he could take ANYONE out imo. I think with Mercer it was too much of an up close war for him to get proper leverage, I think that type of style was definitely his weakness.