How Highly Do You Rate(or do you rate at all) Anselmo Moreno?

Labelled by some as 'the best fighter you don't know' to such an extent that people that had never even seen him fight called him one of, if not the most, underrated in the sport, Anselmo 'Chemito(or something like that, don't like him enough to research it[and I'm not going to apologise for it either, Anselmo:tong]) Moreno has managed to garner himself a decent reputation in the sport with his WBA Bantamweight title and 31-1-1(with his lone defeat coming in his 8th fight) to the point where he is being talked about as a top 3 fighter in the division, and possible Nonito Donaire opponent.

As for the initial claims, don't buy them in the slightest, he's good and all, but he's not at the level of the guys at the top of the division. I think he's flattered by his wins over what I consider to be past-prime fighters in Sydorenko, (Volodymyr wasn't as good then as he was say, in his fights against Poonsawat and Mastrito) Monshipour, Parra, you see where I'm going, his resume isn't all that good when you look into it a little bit.

He's hailed as a kind of supreme talent with great slickness, for me he's about as basic as they come for the most part. He'll throw a straight left, which normally lands, and he'll then duck to the left, usually avoiding his opponent's shot in retaliation. However, what he does not do is make an attempt to avoid the shots that follow the failed attempt, there's not much point in dodging the first shot when you get caught by the second, third, etc, particularly when you don't have the ability to slip and counter with any kind of fluidity, as he doesn't throw a shot after evading one to discourage the opponent from proceeding in their combination. He'll drop to the left and linger there, and seems to assume that that's all that is neccessary for him to do, which, as evidence has shown in his fights where he's consistently caught with right hands, isn't the case.

His lack of punch variety is also staggering, seeing as he only seems to possess two of them, his southpaw jab and straight left hand. Considering that he regularly has height and reach advantages over his opponent, learning to throw an uppercut would greatly benefit him, seeing as his adversary usually plays the role of agressor, and as a result will attempt to get under his long arms. Alas, he doesn't do this, and instead what he does do is throw a series of powerless jabs in succession, and you know the straight will follow. It's just a matter of how many times he'll paw at you before he unleashes the left. Even the implementation of putting more power behind his jab would suffice, he doesn't slow his opponents down enough IMO and has to constantly try to keep them off him throughout the fight, rarely getting any respite in the process.

What also contributes to him being worn down down the stretch is his poor footwork, which is consistently far too wide when he's circling(i.e. always) and mixed with poor balance. He tires himself out by doing this, and never sets himself to punch with any authority, leading to him having to work non-stop throughout the fight. He's sort of like a worse version of Amir Khan I suppose.

Anyways, your thoughts on him? Do you rate him as a top fighter at the weight? How does he stack up against his potential rivals for 118lbs supremecy?

Thank you, Jpab ''Peace, not War'' 19 out.

 

Please no mention Mijares-Cermeno thanks please.

 

I say not to bring up Cermeno, not Darchinyan. I'm always open to discuss Darchinyan-Mijares related stuff, just nothing Mijares-Cermeno related.

Plus, I made a Mijares superthread so that I wouldn't clog up my own threads with stuff related to him and **** people off, and now it's being brought up by other people as soon as I stop? What the **** have I done to warrant this backwards karma?

 

I agree with you on bantam McKay, from top to bottom it's the most stacked in the sport. I think you correctly rank Yonnhy above him, but do you think Perez would beat him? The buzzsaw we saw against Mares and Agbeko twice would certainly defeat Moreno, but I question how much he has left after the Vic debacle, suppose there's no definitive answer for the moment really.

 

Read an interview the other day where he said he wants the Rafa-Nish winner. Hopefully not the case, I don't want him moving up just yet, then again he said he wants to be at 126 in like the next year or so, so................:conf