How highly do you rate Tommy Loughran head to head at 175?

I think Calzaghe has more skills than Loughran has, but his resume doesn't come close to being as good.

 

I would say the same type of skills but Calzaghe's are more developed, refined and mixed with a bit of pop in his punches.

 

I think Calzaghe is a very good fighter,you can't knock an unbeaten record ,but his technical skills aren't on a par with Loughran's ,imo.Loughran ,in his earlier days could hit a bit ,but brittle hands meant he could not take a chance on busting them ,trying for stoppages .Both Tommy and Joe were Lh Champs,do you see Calzaghe beating Max Baer,Jimmy Braddock,and Jack Sharkey?Calzaghe often doesn't turn his wrists over ,consequently he tends to slap a bit ,lots of volume but not allways correctly delivered,but he has great heart and durability.

 

I believe Loughran is a top 5 ATG light heavy. Head to head, I believe he beats most 175 champs. I have him only second to a prime Billy Conn. I have him beating Archie Moore, Michael Spinks, John Conteh, Victor Galindez, Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe, Bernard Hopkins, Bob Foster, Harold Johnson, Joey Maxim, etc.

 

I cant agree.

Calzaghe is a fighter that I rate verry highly based on skills. He can fight three verry diferent styles and do all of them well.

Loughran was the epitome of boxing technique and ring generalship. Gene Tunney never dared to dream that he was as technicaly adept as Loughran.

Loughran found Harry Grebs number in their first fight. He forced Greb onto the back foot (despite being a technician with little power) and took his game away.

Anybody who beat Greb after that only copied him.

Gene Tunney needed a bad beating or two before he took up this strategy.

 

I see more skill and a lot more talent in Calzaghe. My original point is that both excel in anticipation and spacing, but again, Calzaghe pretty much wrote the master thesis on these aspects versus Lacy.

 

I'm shocked.

Your responses are so predictable to be laughable at times. Try changing the pace.

 

Really, Janitor, I don't mean to be an *******, but the older and more arcane the fighter, the more you drool over him. I appreciate this sentiment but there has to be some hint of objectivity to any argument or it is purely dogmatic.

 

To be fair, Calzaghe comes no where close to Loughran in terms of legacy and resume.

 

But Louhran was a GREAT fighter. Underrated? YES!

Look at who he beat:

Harry Greb, Georges Carpentier, Jim Braddock, Mickey Walker, W.L. Stribling, Jimmy Slattery, Mike McTigue, Johnny Wilson, William Bryan Downey, Gerald Griffith, Ad Stone, Leo Lomski, Jack Renault, Jack Gross, Al Ettore, Paulino Uzcudun, and King Levinsky.