How Highly Would We Have Rated Ward If He Had Fought Bute 1st?

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  1. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That "faded Froch":patsch destroyed undefeated world champion Bute easy:hi:
    Win over Froch>Win over BUte!!! Because Froch fought the best in the division and proved that he can fight the best while Bute beat few good fighters but was untested at a highest level.
    Beat proven fighter (at top level) with one loss>Beat unproven fighter(at top level) with 0 losses!
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    How did Ward duck Bute? There was no negotiation between Ward and Bute at the time.

    Ward didn't fight after winning the super6 for a year. For the first 6 months he was out with a broken hand. In that time Bute signd a 2 fight deal with Froch. After that Dawson called out Ward.

    And who is Wardke. Only Jabber calls Ward that . You an alt of Jabber?
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thats nothing more than a grade A troll post.
     
  4. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No its not, its for morons that dont understand that 0 is overrated, its about who you fought not if you have 0 losses.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What has Kessler done to be more accomplished than Bute?
     
  6. perspicacity

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    Ward does not own a Passport
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This shows how little you have seen of Froch before he fought Pascal. He used to be faster and have a better workrate. He was about 30 when he first won a world title and about 35 when fighting Ward. Froch is a slow lw workrate SMW.
    Just because he beat Bute doesnt mean he isnt faded. Did you not think Hopkins was faded when he beat Pascal? I bet you did :oops:
    Bute losing to Froch just shows how weak the era is and Ward lost the chance to capitalise on that if he had of fought Bute.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: You write that, looking for a friend and get turned away again :lol::oops:
     
  9. FilipMNE

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    I did not talk about Kesslers win but what did he do??? Well Kesslers win over Froch>Butes record.
    I can not believe Bute fans acting like he wasnt destroyed first time he stepped up to fight second best fighter in the division.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kessler has done alot more than Bute, which is why he is Wards best win but Bute would have been considered Wards best win because Bute was undefeated. People write on here that an undefeated record doesnt matter, but when you have an undefeated world champ who has built that undefeated confidence it is a big thing.
    No Bute isnt as accomplished as Kessler, but Kessler was faded like Froch and both had been beaten. Ward would have really made a big impact in beating an undefeated fighter. Also Kessler was an unwell double vision suffering fighter.

    Ward and Bute never beat a top undefeated fighter or an undefeated champ. they are fighting in a weak era, where they could have made their name against each other.
    Shame that past by
     
  11. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats exactly what i wanted to hear that just goes to show you how "great" Bute is when he got destroyed as you say by past it Froch:hi:
    Just to make it clear Froch hardly won against Dirrell(it was close), lost to Kessler(close but did lose), beat AA and lost to Ward, and after all this hard hard fights(add Taylor) he still destroyed Bute and showed Lucian is not top level.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    What difference does that make?
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its a troll post because Froch was not faded. He put in the best performance of his career beating undefeated Bute.
     
  14. Scar

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    The fact that Froch obliterated Bute in quick easy fashion does a lot for Ward already.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not disagreeing at all :huh. As said it shows how weak the current era is and how Ward wasted a fantastic opportunity to beat an undefeated world champ and top rated undefeated fighter, something he hadnt done