How Indepth Are Your Predictions and How ACCURATE Are They?

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I find Hopkins fights fairly easy to predict. You know he's going to be very competitive if not win outright if his opponent is'nt particularly quick and fast.
    Power punchers who have average speed Hopkins takes to school.

    The last time I picked a power guy to beat Hopkins was the Trinidad fight.

    Bank on even a 50 year old Hopkins to compete vs all but fighters who are significantly faster than he is.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Good time to reflect on some good/bad picks:

    The good:

    Lara over Williams
    Cotto over Foreman
    Prescott over McCloskey (close decision lost but most consider it a W for him)
    Bradley over Alexander
    Khan over Judah
    Judah over Paris
    Broner over DeMarco
    Pacquiao over Bradley (robbery)
    Martinez over Chavez Jr.
    Ward over Froch and Dawson
    Marquez over Katsidis and Pacquiao (4th fight)
    Floyd over Cotto in a 12 round competitive decision
    Rios over Alvarado (1)
    Hopkins over Pascal (2) and Cloud


    The bad:

    Donaire over Rigondeaux
    Berto over Guerrero
    Rios over Alvarado (2)
    Khan over Garcia
    Maidana over Alexander
    Salido over Garcia
    Cotto over Trout
    Angulo over Kirkland
    Bute over Froch
     
  3. JMP

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    This is a good one.

    I think I had Paris breaking Judah down late. Was pleasantly surprised to see Judah make him gunshy and win every round until the stoppage.

    It's a shame he hasn't fought since then. It's been over a year already.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Yeah, it was cool to watch, if he has any shot against Garcia, it's boxing just like that (made a thread on it). I thought Paris was just far too basic and unimpressive for Judah's speed and movement.

    Another one I got wrong was Hopkins-Dawson. He can't come forward like he used to.
     
  5. MiAmor

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    if u watch fighters usually u can predict the outcome. sometimes u think somene is gonna win and when they dont, u are like wtf. those odd wins are the ones which have question marks behind them. too good to be true
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'll do what Bog did.




    My best picks:

    Hopkins over Tarver, Pavlik, and Pascal (and Cloud, though a lot were picking him there)

    Mosley over Margarito

    Moreno over Darchinyan

    Judah over Paris

    Thompson over Price

    Salido over Juanma both times

    Lopez over Ortiz

    Bradley over Alexander

    Kirkland over Angulo






    My worst:

    Mijares over Darchinyan (by one-sided schooling that would see him force a stoppage in the 9th or 10th being the exact pick...FFS)

    Donaire over Rigo

    Moreno over Mares

    Salido over Garcia

    Pacquiao over Marquez last time out

    Hopkins over Dawson

    Cotto over Margarito the first time

    Berto over Guerrero

    Taylor over Froch (so close though)
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I'm probably more big picture. I doesn't always make picks as much as talk about my take on the odds & who should be the favorite. Although sometimes when I'm confident I do make picks. I really ****ed up Abraham-Foch for instance. That was probably the worse.
     
  8. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heres mine

    The good:

    Mares over Agbeko I and II
    Mares over Moreno
    Cotto over Foreman
    Bradley over Alexander
    Alexander over Maidana
    Khan over Judah
    Peterson over Khan
    Garcia over Khan
    Judah over Paris
    Broner over DeMarco
    Bradley over Pacquiao(could care less if it was a robbery or not)
    Ward over Froch and Dawson
    Marquez over Pacquiao IV
    Floyd over Cotto in a 12 round competitive decision
    Rios over Alvarado I
    Hopkins over Cloud


    The bad:

    Donaire over Rigondeaux
    Berto over Guerrero
    Berto over Ortiz
    Ortiz over Lopez
    Rios over Alvarado II
    Lopez over Salido I and II
    Cotto over Trout
    Chavez over Martinez
     
  9. kwilson71

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    I try not to think too hard about who to pick. Usually I factor in who's just naturally more talented,the style match-up, who has more sound defense, and also more experience.

    Even though I don't put much into my own predictions I respect when guys like Bogo,Bball,and Genaro post in depth breakdowns of a fight,even though I may not always agree its usually a good read.
     
  10. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :lol: Don't be cheap.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If two fighters are fighting on relatively equal terms, I think you have to look at styles and habits and go in depth as much as possible. It's the little things that make the difference. But there's an area of gray you cant always predict -- fighters have the ability to change it up, but in general if they do something the same way most of the time, they'll keep doing it. It's all about putting those factors against eachother and figure out who has the advantage.

    If I graded it like a pyramid in terms of importance it would be


    styles / habits
    intagibles (heart/chin/willpower, etc)
    other factors (age, focus, etc)
     
  12. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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  13. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, i think you can over analyze. Sometimes when you get so detailed about every nuance you fail to see the basic, simple factors that are more important.
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins-Dawson was one of the easiest fight to call in years. Dawson was all wrong for Hopkins and that was very obvious. What were the factors that made you think Hopkins would win?
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. I think Hopkins fights are the easiest to call personally. Straight ahead, plodders with slow hands are guys Hopkins eats up because he controls them with his footwork. It's the guys with fast hands and/or footwork to quickly close the gap that give him trouble. So i still think he can beat a guy like Froch even right now but would lose to Bute.