How is Cotto Hitting as Hard as GGG??

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  1. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Cotto still hits hard because he has great technique. The shot that caused the damage to Geale was clean as you like and - more to the point - Geale didn't see it coming at all. Was a great shot and says more about Cotto's impeccable timing than his power
     
    PaddyGarcia, Jun 8, 2015
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  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    So why didn't Martinez knock Chavez out?
     
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  3. Money&Manny

    Money&Manny THE G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Timing and speed and better overall body movement to put him into the best positions to land good shots. Boxing is from the feet up. Cotto's feet have improved dramatically. There's your answer.
     
    Money&Manny, Jun 8, 2015
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  4. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Geale was drained against cotto.

    /thread
     
    LondonRingRules, Jun 8, 2015
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because a Light Heavyweight couldn't truly knock out Chavez. I don't know if you've noticed or not but Chavez has a really good chin. Geale doesn't
     
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  6. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry for the late response guys. Look, I really hope he is clean. I really do. In today's era there are so many athletes on $hit, especially guys in their 30's and beyond when testosterone begins to drop. We all know that power is the last thing to go, but it should not be increasing. Yes, Cotto was always a very good puncher but he was never Mike Tyson in any division he was in. He was a very good puncher with very good boxing skills. I acknowledge the possibilty that his seemingly increased power is a byproduct of improved technique as others have suggested. I just have a gut feeling that it could be a combination of that and some kind of PED. I really want to give him the benfit of the doubt and I am a Cotto fan. I just know the state of sports right now and whenever you have a lot of money to be made and a short window to do so, people get desperate. If a really good dude like Mosley would take something illegal, anything is possible.
     
    southpaw1974, Jun 10, 2015
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  7. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    They both great balance, translating to grest leverage!!
     
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  8. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Cotto used to drain himself for fights. Now he doesn't. Roach got him more aggressive and in better shape. Having physically debilitated opponents doesn't hurt either.

    (yeah the catchweight was there for a reason)
     
    Xelloss, Jun 10, 2015
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  9. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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  10. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Patience

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    Drive

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  11. Maggo

    Maggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Daniel Geale you stupid troll :deal
     
    Maggo, Jun 10, 2015
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  12. Maggo

    Maggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When GGG beats and knocks out Andre Ward, all trolls who always say GGG ducks him will say Ward was a bum :hi:
     
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  13. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he's not going to ko anyone once the competition goes up
     
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  14. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Draining himself? Cotto has been fighting at 154/155 since he fought Yuri Foreman exactly 5 years ago! Was he hitting this hard back then? Nope. I'm willing to allow the Roach factor to compensate for the natural deterioration of punching power past the age of 30, but how do you explain the INCREASE of punching power beyond that?
     
    southpaw1974, Jun 11, 2015
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  15. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By leading with his head.
     
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