11/712 people infected died. That's a 1.5% death rate. If you consider that the rate of testing was far in excess of that taking place in any mainland location, you'll realize that the supposedly low death rate is totally expected.
Most people who get tested will be high risk. In New York, you basically are not gonna receive a test if your symptoms are mild. The people getting worse symptoms and recieving the tests are therefore usually high risk. A lot of people are using 10x to estimate the actual number of infections. That wouldn't apply to Diamond Princess.
Agreed. But the mortality rate would be expected to be a lot higher than 1.5% among the cruise-going sector (i.e. the Olds).
Saw these statistics in an old Fox News story: "The ship's average age was 58, and 33 percent were 70 or older. All seven deaths so far were of passengers aged 70 or older. The researchers used the ship's data to estimate a death rate among those aged over 70 of 9 percent -- a very high death rate."
I'm just trying to let you know these statistics don't add up. I don't know what's going on, but I do know that these numbers are being fluffed. https://ourworldindata.org/ ^ Very good resource, inside and outside of a crisis this website.
Well 25 years in law enforcement, thought I've seen everything......But with this I realize I haven't. But we push forward, trying to keep as many civilians lives safe as possible. Bad guys see this as opportunity to go from breaking in homes to breaking in business. Evil never sleeps, neither will we.
It is 12 deaths now, making the rate about 1.69%. The 12th death happened on March 28th and was a woman in her 60s. She also appears to be the youngest of the deaths, with the others being in their 70s and 80s (I could not find the age for one of the people that died however).
Thanks for keeping everyone safe in your 25 years in law enforcement. I appreciate all the men and women in law enforcement and you are right, sadly, evil never sleeps.To you and your family during this uncertain time, May God Bless You And Your Family.
Not to send this too far off course, but in addition to what the others have stated, you need a baseline of health to be on a cruise. Someone who has dialysis three times per week or a visit at one of several doctors each week won't be on there. There would also be socio-economic factors at play since the well off tend to be the ones on cruises, and that demographic isn't typically gonna die off at the same rate as those of equal age. TLDR: The old people on a cruise will generally be healthy old people.
Thanks my friend. The most positive thing for me would be to know each and every person on this board (and outside) was fine.
This sounds great! GOT to take care of yourself @Seamus Want you hanging out with us for a loooooooong time.
I agree with your first point but not necessarily the second. The main reason that people who are more well off financially typically have better health outcomes than poorer people is because they have better access to higher quality healthcare. However, with these people being quarantined on the ship, all things were basically equal in regards to healthcare access, which I’m sure was inadequate being that they were on a cruise ship.
No, that isn't true. People of higher socioeconomic status will, as a population not as individuals, have lower rates of chronic disease like diabetes, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure. And if they do have a condition, it is more likely to be well controlled. That doesn't go away on a cruise.
the sad thing is that there are good people that are doing everything risking their own lives everyday to save others which isn't recognized enough by the masses, the politicians, etc. by their lack of cooperation and understanding on how serious this situation really is. This virus has ripped through the world, the police, the military, the healthcare workers, the jail system( correction officers and inmates), etc. everywhere .. And we see a country that has got this so wrong from day 1 and continues to get it wrong, and all we are left to do is scramble so confused, just starting to try and model ourselves after other countries who were more prepared, in order to try and slow the spread so we can somehow give our healthcare workers and the people who protect us a chance to breathe..... This virus has brought the USA and the world to its knees. Not trying to be negative here, but more to the point if it wasn't for the brave men and women who are tired, under resourced, and getting their asses handed to them everyday and still fighting,,, we would be in a way worse situation
