How is Golovkin's win against Ishida viewed?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I think Golovkin would have plenty of problems finding Ward, who is bigger, faster, smarter, physically stronger, more athletic, better skilled, and has far superior footwork.

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  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    that's funny, I would of thought that Floyd would get kudo's for going up to fight a MW ? Don't forget, GGG isn't really that good, however, he does have his own PPV coming up :bbb
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He wouldnt be going up since the fight would be at 150-152, at 160 floyd gets killed obviously. If he went up to 160 he'd obviously get more credit.
     
    ellerbe, Sep 2, 2015
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  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight would be at 154 where Floyd holds the JMW title or there would be no fight. MAYBE 153.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LOL why would it be at 154 or 153, when he made Canelo go down to 152 who is the far bigger draw. the fight would be at 150-152
     
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  6. Bobthepen

    Bobthepen Active Member Full Member

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    Can't say for sure who will be stronger - Ward is very strong at 168. Disagree about the footwork.

    I wouldn't describe Ward as elusive in the sense that he stays out of range. Froch and Ward got in range with little difficulty. Problem was when they got in range their attack was neutralised and they ate counters.
     
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  7. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    Sorry, "I know you are but what am I" is not a valid response. Please try again.

    I'm actually pretty nice with everyone who is respectful and enjoy getting pushback and debating things. The only person I bully here is you, because you decided to pick the fight. Though as I told you before, I do like to fight so its no skin off my nose.

    So now you are trying to spin your insults as not-insults? Ok then. :patsch


    The Lara reference was from a different thread we both posted in, you jumping in in specific reference to me.


    And yeah, losing twice - though I am being nice to you and considering todays thrashing a continuation of the one from a couple days ago. If we count them separate it would be thrice.

    I mean, you broke down and basically started totally raging out. Thats what people do when they lose, and they cant take it. Sorry if setting the record straight on things is inconvenient for you :conf
     
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  8. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair though Canelo was also a JMW who weighed 153 against Trout
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know you are but what am I response? What are you even talking about? I was confirming who started attacking the other first, and I'm pretty sure it's you.

    I'm guessing the reason you feel teh need to bully me is since I anger you for educating you twice. You can't take a loss so you're still upset about it. Here have a pat on the head and a cookie.

    Who did I rage out towards? LOL cst? That had nothing to do with this thread at all, it was some personal stuff we had to work out. I didnt rage at you at all, goofing on how dumb you are and schooling you isn't raging. If you want to take it that way then fine.
     
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  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo and Golovkin's situations are different. Canelo hadn't fought at 160 at that time (still hasn't). Golovkin's been fighting there his entire career. Different fighters, different situations.

    Golovkin would go down to 154, maybe 153 as a natural middleweight. That fight would be a joke at 152 and no one would even take that fight seriously. 154 I give Floyd credit, maybe 153, but not 152. That'd be shameful on Floyd's part, but GGG would be stupid to take it. GGG isn't stupid though.
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

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    Froch himself said Ward was always "too close or too far away". He's a master at dictating range. GGG has excellent footwork, but it's not on the level of someone like Ward.
     
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  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    yep, he was only 1 pound less he wasn't drained at all, but my point is why would Floyd go up to 154 for a full fledged MW when he wasn't willing to do it for canelo?
     
    ellerbe, Sep 2, 2015
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    So when is the last time floyd fought at the full 154?
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

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    The fight will never happen, but if it did it would be 147. And Floyd would outclass GGG who would look like a malnourished starving White Walker.

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  15. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because canelo is not a MW
     
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