How is Golovkin's win against Ishida viewed?

Honestly I am not even sure why people bother with topics sometimes. Unless we just want to know what the thread wont be about after a couple pages.

 

dubstep is for *****s :hi:

 

Honestly though, I am curious to see if anyone agrees with xellos saying Ward wanted nothing to do with GGG before his hiatus, and K2 greenlit the fight. Maybe someone can actually provide a source instead of complete comedy . It seems to be a pattern that GGG ****suckers love to make things up to protect their god.

 

I said K2 greenlit it , as in told HBO yes they would do it. Ward lacked interest. You should not call other people names when you continually demonstrate an inability to read and process properly its bad form and at least the second time you have done it today :nono

Where did I say Hershman greenlit the fight? Nowhere, HBO only floated the fight. K2 just said OK. Honestly your pathological lying is getting kind of old.

You should note the shoulder reference as well, that was his excuse before the promotional issues remember? I guess you also think HBO never asked the fighters about making a fight they wanted either.

As far as Hershman talking about the possibility of the fight specifically, you try finding stuff from 2013/2014 that was actually second hand. That he said it is what I said, you are the one demanding a direct quote. You can pretend all you want, and loudly insult all you want in an attempt to cover your weak position but all evidence points to K2 saying yes and Ward saying no.

Also, no mention from you on why Ward was trying to act like he could make and wanted to make the fight during his lawsuits... now that you finally acknowledge that Ward was in fact not able to fight for a time. :hi:

 

:deal

I have been of the opinion that GGG and Ward were on a collision course ever since the Wlad-Jennings fight where Loeffler and Prince reportedly discussed it and Prince mentioned it on-mic at a press conference. Team Ward went quiet after that until he signed with Roc and started getting his career moving again.

 

I like how you stated that you would give me the last word, but the beatdown I just gave you was far too much for you to keep to quiet.

So where is your proof that K2 greenlit the fight before his hiatus? You have absolutely nothing to back your statement up, you're just a blatant liar. What was the point of the article sent me where Hershman said he'd love him to fight Chavez Jr, Ward etc , were you just sending me more random links to make your argument seem stronger even though it did nothing for your argument?

There's absolutely no evidence of k2 saying yes in 2013 or before his hiatus. You obviously lack common sense, but it's pretty obvious that k2 said yes after Ward was in a dispute. Don't worry I don't expect you to realize the obvious.

Ward was calling GGG out FAR before his hiatus. If GGG wanted the fight back then like you claimed it woudl have happened, or GGG would and his team would have called Ward out for ducking.

 

Agree and disagree with some things, but I respect your opinion. You've been honest and haven't really bandwagoned from my experience.

 

Rummy actually gets a lot of views lol,.

 

You specifically said you wanted to continue so I obliged?


When was Ward calling out GGG before his Hiatus? Seriously? From what I recall Goosen was mostly trying to talk BHop into fighting.. and the E-Rod negotiations went on for some insanely long period of time.

The way I remember it, Ward did not want a tough out for his first fight back after surgery, which pretty much everyone gave him a pass for at the time. Including myself.

I have never said that Ward ducked GGG, or if it looked like I did I was just needling one of the many people who used to ride the "GGG ducking Ward doe" bandwagon while Ward was in fact unable to fight. Because Ward had ducked GGG as much as GGG ducked Ward, which is neither but people can take it how they want.

So yeah, where did Ward call out GGG and actually want the fight? I remember his response to the question at the Rosado fighter meeting wasn't particularly encouraging either. He was pretty evasive about it from what remember.

 

I specifically said I wanted you to continue? questioning you is not directly saying that. Quote me where I said specifically said Xellos I want you to reply and continue . You dont have to lie man, you could have just said it.

Anyways we can just agree to disagree, or next time you see my post you can start it all over and again. You think that Ward wanted nothing to do with GGG before his hiatus which has absolutely 0 facts to back that up, and I think GGG is ducking Ward by calling him out to 164 which also is a conclusion that has come from assumptions/common sense. If you want to know the main reason I attacked you the first time was because you stated "I wish Ward was easier to deal with", even though my post had nothing to do with Ward, you were implying that Ward was the one who did not want the fight. I know you deliberately said that to start an argument since you had been replying to several of my posts about GGG when I wasn't on the forum talking about how it's not GGG's fault.

This thread is probably going to go to 50 pages if I continue. I'm not as desperate as you for the last word, I'll be the bigger man again you may have the honor. :good

 

Oh, as another aside but something that was telling about Team Wards efforts to get GGG in the ring prior to hiatus - recall the Ward-Erod post fight press conference.

It was Lou DiBella who actually tossed out the idea of GGG, Lou saying that he thought Ward beat everyone easily except maybe, maybe, GGG. That he thought a GGG fight would be interesting.

Goosen literally went purple in the face and did his best Cisco Route impersonation "who is he? who has he fought? who has he fought?". Not exactly a moment that would suggest that Goosen was entertaining the idea of a GGG fight at all. But who knows, maybe that's partly why Ward left. Maybe Ward had wanted it, because Prince saw the trend with HBO but GTP did not. :conf

 

Ok my bad, I read your "I have time now" that way. My mistake :conf