How is Golovkin's win against Ishida viewed?

It's an alright win... Considering Ishidas demolition job on Kirkland, and performances against Fujimoto. Not great, but certainly not a win that looks ugly on his record.

 

Pirog was a very interesting fighter, had a very awkard style, good skills and excellent defense and pretty good power as well.

Although he may have been a tad overrated in retrospect.

He kind of helped to dispel the "Eastern Euro" style myth which typically views them as straight up and very basic.

 

I mean after Pirog, do you guys ever hear the tired line from the commentators:

"He doesn't fight in that typical Eastern European style" I hear that A LOT less nowadays.

 

Its hard to say if he was overrated, because he was never able to land the big fights after Jacobs. Greenburg and the Haymon Cartel was still big in HBO and wasnt about to see any more of their guys beaten by him and he never got that Russian Oligarch backing to lure in other names with big money.

Once Greenburg was ousted, Hershman almost immediately looked to bring Pirog back and thats how Pirog-GGG was made. Then once he really had his shot at climbing the ladder to true s****om, he of course got that career ending back injury in training camp and GGG went on to demolish Proksa. :-(

 

its easier to look good against bums.

how do u know ggg can do that to ward

we saw pac cutting the ring and getting kds against algieri
but against mayweather he looked like ****

 

He's overrated in that, there's this mythos about him that he could have been another GGG or in fact be the one to beat him but there are a couple of performances to indicate that's not the case and we were mistaken to think so now that we've seen what GGG is really capable of.

 

I don't think Ward fights like Mayweather at all, Ward is a lot more spoiler-ish which is why he'd win against GGG, he's excellent at transitioning from outside to inside and he's better than GGG at both, GGG's chance is at midrange but Ward would not allow the fight to be that way.

 

Yeah there are instances where he doesnt look quite as sharp, I have often wondered if its a result of being shut out of the limelight so thoroughly by the politics. Who knows though.

I do think though, that a healthy Pirog would certainly have been the biggest threat to GGG, and beats anyone else at MW. IMO the division was a lot more interesting with him in it.

 

:good

Looking back, I think Sergio made a smart move in not fighting him.

 

god the ranting of a casual fan GGG ****sucker is always too funny.

like steve said, it's easy to do against bums, Ward is a billion times better than all of ggg's competition combined. let us know when he fights someone with a pulse.

 

Ishida was crying the next day at a table because he had never been stopped like that, Abel Sanchez saw him and told him not to worry about it because it's going to happen to a lot of Golovkin opponents.

the Ward I saw against Smith wouldn't beat Golovkin, he still needs time to get back to the level, if he ever does