How is it that some boxers never get that "ripped" physique?

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  1. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Good good point. I'm here in Sicily right now, and yea, very rarely have a run into somebody fat, let alone somebody not looking in too good of shape.
     
  2. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    I changed the wording of my first post. I mean yes, genetics obviously have a play in it. And a good diet has to be key as well. But your lifestyle at a young age doesnt really get mentioned too much I think. Its much harder to condition yourself latter in life versus starting when your young I think.
     
  3. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    Being ripped isn't the be all and end all. You don't need to be ripped to be in great physical shape.

    An obvious one for me is Joe Calzaghe, whom always came into the ring looking thin, but never particularly ripped. However, he had one of the highest punch outputs of anyone and had world class stamina.

    Even a marathon runner, I know a few lads that do that at a national level, and whilst all are slim, none are toned in any way, despite being amongst the fittest people in the country. Obviously different training from a boxer, but the point remains.

    Of course, there is a huge difference between this and being lardy, like an Arreola.
     
  4. Domizm

    Domizm New Member Full Member

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    HOw so?
     
  5. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Genetics do play a big role, yes. But I it has more to do with weight lifting than anything else, obviously. Fighters that lift weights like Wlad and Haye have impressive physiques. But it takes work. I remember an interview with Wlad where he said he lifted nearly every day and that the only time he stopped was during the last half of training camp where he would spar and do more cardio. I'm sure Haye does the same.

    Then there are guys like Kelly Pavlik. Now, it's obvious he doesn't lift weights at all and that any muscle tone he has, which is not much, comes from weight living boxing style. What I mean is throwing medicine balls, doing pusch ups, etc. And really, that isn't going to give you an impressive physique. It gets you in great shape, but its a far cry from a beach body.
     
  6. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Apparently you're not paying attention. Many parts of Europe are fighting their own battle of the bulge. The UK, in particular, is extremely out of shape. In fact, Britain is the fattest country in Europe and their obesity rates rival the US. :D
     
  7. Beckjl

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    Thats easy, diet.
     
  8. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When people say obesity runs in their family, they are right but for the wrong reason. It runs in the family not because of genetics but because of poor diet and exercise habits which are passed down from generation to generation. This is really bad in the American south where they put insane amounts of sugar in everybody and deep fry anything they can think of.[/quote]

    Wow! A healthy dose of ignorance. This might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read. People don't pass on exercise or eating habits, dummy, they pass on genes. It makes no difference at all if someone is a fat and lazy slob, if he has the genes of an athlete he will pass them on. Man, this is dumb. AND SOMEBODY ACTUALLY AGREED WITH IT!!!:lol:
     
  9. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some guys carry more subcutaneous fat and fluid than others and would have to seriously hamper their performance in a ring to get a ripped look. A ripped look is nothing more than a sign of low subcutaneous fat and fluid and says nothing about stamina, skill nor strength.

    If you test some of those smooth looking guys like Calzaghe you'd find their lung and heart function to be just as good as guys that are ripped to shreds if not better.

    Bruno was perhaps the classic example of a ripped boxer. The guys physique was incredible yet smoother guys like Witherspoon out lasted him easily.

    When I look at a weigh in i never compare the boxers themselves unless one is going up or down in weight and there is a natural size advantage. I compare the boxer to how they themselves look when in good shape.
     
  10. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    Genetics do come into it a bit.

    Some people can eat a lot and never put on weight, others can eat a normal diet and put on weight easily.

    I know myself, I eat healthier than most people I know, however whenever I am not particularly active I balloon in weight. Where as one of my best mates, lives on a diet of takeaways and soft drinks and doesn't seem to put on weight. He is very unfit though, and couldn't run the length of himself. However I need to work hard to maintain a weight that seems to come natural to him.
     
  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Genetics play a little part but it's mostly diet.

    Jay Cutler, 3X Mr Olympia - 5'9 260-275lbs competition weight 2-3% body fat.
    Jack Cutler, Jays father - 5'6 130-140lbs.

    Going about 5 years back a mate a mate of mine who's 6' weighted around 320lbs with around 40%+ bodyfat. His whole family are of the same mould.
    Today he's around 200lbs, 15% body fat.

    How he looked could easily be put down to genetics, but in his own words 'If I had the drive and desire years ago I'd never have looked the way I did".

    Take Arrolea as an example, thats's just a fat lazy **** who is capable of so much more, he just doesn't have the desire.
     
  12. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    You read it wrong making yourself sound stupid.
     
  13. Genetics/diet/roadwork gets you hell ripped

    The way somone trains aswell, pacman has high intensity speed/power workouts, that'll make you ripped. Kelly Pavlik style of work horse attrition and endurance will make your muscles lean and stretched out.

    It's a feel thing.
     
  14. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    I understand that. In fact I believe in my first post I reference how Martinez looks ripped as hell, and Pavlik looks like nothing special, but that means absoulutely nothing, ecspecially as Pavlik is the favorite.

    I simply want to know everyone's thoughts on the subject.

    I understand diet is a key. In fact its really amazing how your body is a finely tuned machine. Take me for example, Im not prize fighter or anything but Im in the gym 4-6 times a week, and have a pretty good diet. And its funny how eating some Breyer's ice cream before bed on a cheat day completely effects how my sleep was, and how I feel in the gym the next day its amazing really. But in my case, Im 6'2", walk around at 180 (if I lift weights every day I go, if not ill be 170/165ish), do cardio before each workout (2 mile run or 20 min jump rope, with bag work) work a specific body area with weights. But im only toned and not cut and it sometimes makes me crazy.

    But then I look at boxers like Kelly Pavlik and wonder how in the **** the Lineal Middleweight champ only looks average, but can box for 12 rounds with & or ko the best in the world. Its amazing how it all works to me really, knowing that being "ripped" means nothing to your stamina/overall strength sometimes.
     
  15. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're an idiot, friend. Read it again and get back to me. Or take an Enlish comprehension course, that might help.:patsch