How is it that some boxers never get that "ripped" physique?

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  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    James has bigger tits then my Jr High School girlfriend did:yep
     
  2. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have seen it before. you can find guys that physically look out of shape but cardiovascular, they are in better shape than body shape. its kinda strange:nut
     
  3. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    :yep
     
  4. hewito

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    a natural boxer never has a ripped physique.......unless of course genetics..the only way you get muscles its by doing weights,and most trainers will not allow the fighter to bulk up because he get slower!
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its possible to get stronger without putting too much mass on. Likewise its possible to have rock hard stomach without having bulging abs that would show.

    For someone like you who find it dificult to pack on big muscles, you would basically have to train like a bodybuilder. Not everyone has the genes to look like Arnold but everyone definitely have the genes to pack quite a good bit of muscle so that when your bodyfat % reaches 8% they will be bulging out.

    Also like you said, you are 6'2 180lbs and only bench 200lbs, I assure you can bench much more than that dependant on the type of training you do. When you are benching 300lbs, your muscles will come naturally, therefore you would have chest.

    Its the same with abs, you can have rock solid abs caused by 1000 situps, some people with good genes can develop well defined abs from that, you ay have to go a step further and do weighted situps so they actually bulge out, train for size.

    I know all that is useless for boxing as you are basically training to look good rather than be functional. However, being "toned" is simply being muscular like a bodybuilder and have low enough bodyfat, 8% or below.

    There are some people that have muscular bodies without an ounce of weightlifting, therefore if they strip the bodyfat to 8%, those muscles show straight away. This explains why so many boxers looks "ripped" even though they dont do weights, either their genes gave them a muscular built or their body responds very well to boxing type of training that develops muscle just from sheer bodyweight workouts.

    I believe Tyson even before weights, stripped down to low bodyfat % would always look the way he did, it was just his built. For some though, strip the bodyfat and theres nothing but bone there.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because fitness is attained from training.

    Fat is attained by food.

    So if you keep training for fitness, but keep eating, your gonna get fit, but you are also gonna get fat...which is what Toney & Arreola does.

    Training for fitness does burn calories though, food=calories so most of the time they go hand in hand, usually if you train hard, you are fitter, you burn more calories, therefore you are slim, which is the case for most boxers. In the case of Toney though, he trains hard and eats hard, however much calories he's burning through training, he's eating more...so hes gain both fitness and fatness.
     
  7. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    That's one thing every trainer I dealt with told me, to stay away from weights, because of my height at 6'2" they wanted to me be as healthy light as I could be, saying adding too much muscle will slow me down.
     
  8. Boxmaster

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    In a month, not in a year. Who told you a person can only make 6lbs of muscle in a year?
     
  9. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way to lose weight is easy and it never changes. Eat significantly less calories and be significantly more active. Spend 1 hour a day playing a sport you like, such as basketball or tennis, maybe track. And skip breakfast before you do it.

    The individual doing this will feel weak for a couple weeks but they always lose weight. They have to do this for months though because the weight will come back if they don't keep at it.

    When the body feels weak that means the body is burning it's fat reserves (or in some cases muscle). The body might burn 50/50 or 70/30, or 80/20, this part depends on genetics. Some people exercise and burn pure fat so they have the ripped look and some people burn half their muscle with their fat and become smaller in size but they don't ever get ripped.

    The people who don't have the ideal genetics will have to focus more on weight training along with cardio. Anyone who does weight training AND cardio I can guarantee they'll lose weight. It's a scientific fact that if you spend an hour playing basketball and then spend 40 minutes doing bench pressing or squats you will absolutely lose weight at about 2lbs a week or even faster.

    Anyway that worked for me. Only if I get in the mode where I drop weight I drop it easily. I gain it easily but gaining muscle is harder than gaining fat, so the trick is to occasionally drop down to your lowest acceptable weight and then go through a bulking cycle for a year or two and then drop down again and so on. It's a cycle that if you follow you'll eventually have the ripped look at least when you peak out which usually happens for a few months to 6 months and it happens for me when I'm bulking up.
     
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney wants to be a heavyweight but he moved up to heavyweight too late in his life. He should have made the move up in weight in his 20s. Now hes in his 30s and he can't cut weight because hes in his 30s and it has nothing to do with his training and more to do with his advanced age.
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    and food. burning fat just gets harder with age, but with strict diet its still atainable, Toney and Roach themselves said Toney had eating probs. Toney had managed to get down pretty low below before when he really tried. Whether dieting that much to the point it weakens him is beneficial or not is a different argument...but gaining weight and loosing weight has always been the same concept, for everyone.
     
  12. twenty1

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    This is an educated post instead of hear-say:good
     
  13. Primenal

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    95% of it is diet. I don't care what kind of so called "fat" genetics ya got...95% of people through dedication, exercise, and diet would lose weight, and become more ripped. I'm not saying they could all look like Mr, and Mrs Olympia, but they could look GOOD.
    Some people do grow faster, have good genetics already, it's easier/ harder for certain people, BUT enough dedication=All you really need.
     
  14. Boxing Fanatic

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    U are absolutely correct, my man!:good
     
  15. ghostlybadge

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    Training style diet and genetics