How is Mayweather Marquez a mismatch

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ones I left blank I left blank beacuse They are completly ilrelvent to who has an advantage, or who has an advantage is a matter of opinion.
    The obovious conclusion from your list is that no matter who Mayweather fights it would be a mismatch Mosley, Pacquaio, Cotto, Margrito, Berto, clotty, Hiatshawayo, Bradley, and even Williams would be missmatches in favor of Mayweather. By your standers Mayweather would have to fight at 154-168 for any potentional mayweather bout not to be a mismatch.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would like anyone in this forum to produce me a link where Mayweather himself states JMM is a tuneup fight for himself?
     
  3. gamboa170

    gamboa170 New Member Full Member

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    Yeh I think people are stuck in the mindset of "if Mayweather is favored, then its a mismatch"
     
  4. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it would have been closer to being a fair fight if it happened at 140lbs. JMM may be an elite fighter, but he is being too brave for his own good, you gotta admire him for taking such difficult task. Expect him to look "big" on fight-night, but thats mostly water and muscle mass, needed for him to atleast level the playing field especially the punch absorption/ resistance part. But over all, speed and agility, which plays a very important part of his game, being a counterpunching master, will be compromised and he'd be giving away the primary weapons he is banking on.
     
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't expect Marquez to weigh in at 144 closer to 140. He should still be strong.
     
  6. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then PBF's punches will be much harder to absorb. Floyd would weigh in at around 144 and bigger on fight night, without compromising speed.:!:
     
  7. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    Some of the boxers you mentioned above has advantages over Floyd that JMM does not enjoy so definitely those match-ups are not mismatches...

    Williams - bigger, taller, longer, younger (maybe the toughest fight for Floyd)
    Mosley - bigger, stronger, same speed
    Pacquaio - faster, younger
    Cotto - bigger, stronger
    Margarito - bigger, taller, stronger
    Berto - bigger, younger
    Clottey - bigger, stronger
    Hiatshawayo - ??
    Bradley - younger, same speed

    :D
     
  8. cougnuts510

    cougnuts510 Active Member Full Member

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    This fight is in no way a mismatch. Sure Floyd has a lot of the advantages but I still think Marquez will make it a interesting. In fact, I am going with Marquez by controversial decision.



    *Marquez would have killed Hatton in the same manner that Pacquiao did
     
  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    This will be Marquez' biggest payday so far. PBF makes it obvious that he only fights for money, so like all good bankers, he weighs risk and reward.

    There are intangibles such as the 2 year layoff but I can't see how JMM can go from a war with Diaz to beating PBF at 145. I hope he does, but it will be a monumentous win.
     
  10. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :roll:


    What kind of ****ing idiotic analogy is that? Jones made that weight in the amateurs when he was a child. More than half of Mayweather's professional fights were at 130, and he's about the same size as most natural Jr. Welters at present.

    Mayweather is an inch taller than Marquez and will probably only outweigh by a few pounds in the ring. BTW Marquez's 67 inch reach is the same as Pac's and Cotto's, both of whom are considered to be serious challenges to Mayweather. Size is an advantage for Mayweather here, but let's not exaggerate.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You gave Marquez 4 advantages and 3 even scores. Out side of Williams who you gave 4 points of advantage to over Mayweather you gave no one else more than 3 points of advantage over Mayweather. Yet acording to you Marquez is at a greater disadvantage. :yep
     
  12. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I only pointed out those factors/categories that these boxers enjoy over Floyd that JMM didn't enjoy... I didn't make a total assessment of all the factors as what I did for Floyd-JMM...

    Even if you just look at these match-ups side by side, it's clear that Floyd-JMM is a mismatch fight compared to the other match-ups...

    Floyd-JMM = Definitely a mismatch fight

    Floyd-Paul Williams = Definitely not a mismatch

    Floyd-Mosley = Definitely not a mismatch

    :D
     
  13. Carlingayteo

    Carlingayteo Thoughtless Full Member

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    Agree 100% with this thread it's not a miss-match not really , I mean some folk on here are saying if Marquez get's the win it will be upset of the decade some even ever i mean these people need to get a ****in crip it's not like Marquez is some bum washed up fighter his in his prime and #2 P4P fighter in the world
     
  14. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    If Floyd rushes INN and throws punches N bunches the ref could stop it quick! i don't want that 2 happen thsat is why im im putting it up here. If a cut dont occurr on marquez it will be a tough fight for both.
     
  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You base your opinion that Mayweather/Marquez based on what exactly?
    Seemes tht your strongest argument is the weight. A weight that Maywether has to come down to meet and one that will give Marquez plenty of breathing room like when Mayweather fought De La Hoya weighing 150.