How is Mayweather Marquez a mismatch

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  1. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    the point is i don't care what weight pbf has fought in the past. you really didnt get that or are you just trying to be a hard ass about it?? either way if you think a guy who moves up 9lbs to fight pbf at that weight for the first time in his career isnt at a disatvantage you are delusional. and thats fine if you are delusional, thats your business. but you are delusional no doubt about that

    edit to note that the rjj think was just me breaking balls. everyone makes a big deal about where a fighter has fought in the past as opposed to where he is settled in at now. pbf left as the top ww in the world and he's coming back arguably the same. a guy who fought at 135 his last fight coming up 9lbs whose never done it in the past is at a disadvantage especially when the guy you are moving up to fight is faster than you to begin with and is very defensive minded.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Because Mayweather has fought as high as 150, it makes it a mismatch despite the same people saying this, also call the DLH he fought, shot.



    So how fighting someone shot at 150, have any impact?


    Mayweather is weighing 146 right now. 2lbs heavier than the heaviest fighter Marquez has ever faced (Pac 144)

    It's just 2lbs! Lmao
     
  3. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    It's not a mismatch. Boxers can go up and down weight all the time, and keep all their speed, strength and resilience. Two or three weight divisions at a time is nothing. If Pacman can do it, everyone can, because he's not special. He's an average boxer like everyone else. Pavlik was still his wrecking ball self at light heavy against Hopkins like he was at middleweight. Weight divisions are meaningless anyway. Size and strength never matter in boxing. Marquez jumping two divisions is fine, because Mayweather will do the same to middleweight to fight the aforementioned Pavlik I'm sure.
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    JMM is the second best fighter in the world and FLoyd is coming off a 2 year layoff. Floyd will never get it right.
     
  5. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I already presented it to you... Floyd has 15 advantages out of 22 while JMM only has 4 out of 22 with 3 factors even... It's a mismatch...

    On one poll here, members voted that JMM would do nothing to Floyd in this fight... Meaning nothing JMM can do to Floyd... It's a mismatch...

    On another poll, voters give JMM less than 50% chance to defeat Floyd... Even JMM's own trainer, Nacho only give JMM 45% chance of winning... It's a mismatch....

    On another poll, voters said if JMM wins it will be one of the biggest upsets of the decade... coz this is a MISMATCH fight...

    On betting odds, Floyd is a 4 to 1 heavy favorite to demolish JMM... it's a mismatch fight...

    JMM is expected to lose in this mismatch fight...
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  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Get a life buxzer. All you do is try to **** on this PPV. You rarely if ever speak about anything else.
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    It's little known that ESB polls do represent actual cast iron indisputable fact. Good luck with your crusade to increase knowledge of this.
     
  8. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    yeah i see your point...i read through the thread again and it kind of occurred to me...there is a difference between a mismatch and someone being at a disadvantage. i sort of assumed the two went hand in hand but i guess they don't have to all the time. i would say that jmm is at a disadvantage coming up in weight to fight pbf that doesnt mean its a mismatch and jmm doesnt have any business in the ring w/ him. that disadvantage may combine w/ other disadvantages like speed and strength to make it a mismatch but the weight thing is just a disadvantage.
     
  9. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    Did you vote in those polls?? Are you a citizen of ESB?? :D
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  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The weight isn't truly an issue.


    Mayweather fighting DLH does not help him prepare for Marquez.

    Look at the facts. If Mayweather comes fight night against JMM at the weight he stated he is currently weighing, he will be 2lbs heavier than the heaviest fighter JMM has fought. Which was Pac who weighed 144.

    JMM/Nacho stated he was weighing 143. Only 2lbs heavier than his last fight.


    People need to look at the countdown video of Mayweather and Marquez standing next to each other with their shirts off and you can easily see this size difference is relatively small.

    buxzer and others spam about the disadvantages JMM has.

    They act like Mayweather wouldn't have these advantages vs other fighters as well.
     
  11. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    :good this is what i'm saying all along... you combine all those numerous advantages of Floyd and it becomes a mismatch fight...
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  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    For the perusal of buxzer, here's a thread from 16 months ago about other fights that were considered 'mismatches' by the denizens of ESB:

    Cotto v Pacquiao

     
  13. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    I picked PAC to defeat Hoya mainly due to his superior speed...:hi:
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  14. Tszyu

    Tszyu Active Member Full Member

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    JMM has no business up at this weigh. Mayweather is fighting JMM because he think if he beats JMM, then he doesn't need to fight Pac.
    He will say he beat a guy who beat pac twice and price himself out.