how is roy jones going to deal with calzaghe speed and stamina

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  1. jkdking

    jkdking Active Member Full Member

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    i mean i was watching calzaghe vs bhop and right till the end calzaghe had the speed and kept punching. i know roy jones has faster hands but he has not got the stamina to throw alot of combinations around like calzaghe.

    how is roy going to win rounds when he punches 45 to 50 times the whole round. has roy still got enough pop in his punches to get respect. and i was thinking if roy sits on his punches to throw harder. he will fade bad late.

    i think roy has to thow that left hook alot in this fight.
     
  2. Tolstoy

    Tolstoy dead Russian novelist Full Member

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    How is Calzaghe going to handle Jones' power? That's a bigger concern for me. Jones has the power to hurt and stop Joe but I'm pretty sure the reverse isn't true.
     
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    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones is faster than Calzaghe...please say otherwise.

    Jones is just shot.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Speed won't be an issue...jones is still faster than Joe and always has been. The problem will be the work rate and if Roy can keep Joe at the end of his jab and stright right. If Jones jab and footwork are all clicking he can beat Joe by controlling the pace and distance, possibly set Joe up for a KO. Of course Joe will be needing to show some more head movment and be working consistantly to force Jones in to a battle of stamina. The left hook can be a factor agaisnt Joe and I think he should throw more combos witht he left hook in order to keep Joe honest and weary about eating anything from Roy clean. Jones by KO! Which isn't the most logical bet, but I see the upset in the distant.
     
  5. jkdking

    jkdking Active Member Full Member

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    if joe throws alot he will have jones hurt. calzaghe has underrated power
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree with you. This will be in part about power.

    But it will also be about Roy's feet. Calzaghe turned in world class footwork against Hopkins. Jones needs to rediscover that old grace, not on an spectacular, leaping scale, but he needs to have better footowrk than Calzaghe - he needs to get outside and make the angle on the square Joe, make him look foolish, and he needs to land what he throws. If Calzaghe can make him miss with any kind of regularity, a lopsided decision becomes possible.

    He needs his jab. His jab is possibly better now than it ever was. I mean he's slower, of course, but he has beter form on the punch, I think. He didn't need it when he was at his absolute best, perhaps, but he bloody well needs itnow.

    One thing. Calzaghe hits often and from different angles, but he usually doesn't hit that hard, not these days. Look at Jones tactics v Johnson. He covered up, lay upon the ropes and smothered and blocked as many of the punches as possible. This is good strategy against Joe, as much as it is ever good strategy against anyone...dealing with Joe's punches individually would be impossible for anyone but a peak Jones type, so having a blanket strategy is ok. But when he moves he has to punch.

    If he can do this, or something like it, he will have drawn level or close to it in the stamina stakes. But it takes time, and he only has 12 rounds. So I don't see any way for Jones to win, apart from spectacular KO, but I think he can keep things respectable. 116-112 OR 115-113.
     
  7. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    hes not going to deal with it, hes going to get his ass kicked


    jones is beyond washed up. so what he is still fast, all he does is pop shot these days. calfaggy will be doing his slapfest and jones will be shelled up against the ropes


    the only thing is will it go all 12? hard to say, calfaggy hits like a straweight and jones chin is made out of egg shells, so who knows on that front
     
  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    RJJ problem isnt Calzaghe speed or power the problem isthat hes shot.
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    The question should be:

    How is Joe Calzaghe going to deal with a legend who was shot in 2004 and has had 4 years to age and decline further since?

    The answer:

    Very easily, that's why he chased the dollar for this fight.
     
  10. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe ain't exactly a spring chicken, either. He's better conditioned, has greater stamina, but his hands are eggshells, he's lost speed and agility and his power is limited at 170, to say the least. RJJ will have a lot more power. The fight will come down to whether Jones can counter effectively with power when Calzaghe stands in front of him and windmills, and whether Calzaghe can avoid getting put on his ass enough to accumulate points on volume punching. If this makes it into the late rounds- barring some freak ko- Calzghe should be able to pull out a decision. But he always starts slow, and Jones will be at his best the first half of the fight. I'm going out on a limb and say RJJ by tko, round 4. Far out on a limb...
     
  11. brown_bomber

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    calzaghe will get a boring UD decision over jones thats all unless jones spunks on calzaghes face and then knocks him out
     
  12. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who was as talented? Not many. I'd still have liked to see this fight five years ago at 168, where Calzaghe belongs. Not saying Calzaghe would have won, he wouldn't have, but he'd have put up a better fight than most.
     
  13. heidegger

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    Calzaghe isn't young but he's held on to his form well into his old age.
    Jones on the other hand is completely, utterly, immoderately and hoplessly shot.
     
  14. standing 8

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    Good post. I too feel that Jones has a good shot at beating Calzaghe, but he has to let his hands go to do it.
     
  15. youthmann

    youthmann A NEW KING IS BORN Full Member

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    Talk, talk, talk....
    RJJ is shot, RJJ is old.... Is there about 4 years between them? Approx... All in favor of JC - as always.. But, as always JC ends up winning. Because he's just a winner.. The biggest mistake is that people underestimate BH - I'll bet he'll win 4 out of 5 fights if him and RJJ fought today. Just wait and see how much trouble BH will cause Pavlik!!!
    RJJ only have a punchers change against JC - should he even put JC on his ass a time or time - JC would still do enough to win the fight. Wait and see.
    I just hope that JC really make this his last fight, so he doesn't slap that much and gives a **** about breaking the remaining bones in his fists - then maybe we will see (more than average) hard punches from JC. If JC's already thinking about taking Pavlik as a last fight in cardiff - then we won't see much more than the usual slapping/hitting. So lets hope it his last fight so JC can finish in a respectable way, ko´íng RJJ.
    I would also have loved RJJ and JC fight 6-8 years back and I'll probably also give the edge to RJJ. The sad thing about JC is that he probably could have been much bigger and greater, if he had tried a loss or two, so he could develop himself. Remember JC is a winner of mind and soul - more than RJJ have ever had.
    JC by UD or late TKO....