How is weights incorporated in Pacquaio's training?

If you eat beans then your stamina increases by 22.3 %

 

I may be completely off base, but I just don't see how a guy like Pacquiao looks the way he does without doing at least SOME weight training.

 

At one of my old gyms they used to have the boxers work through something one of the coaches put together called the strength workout, it consisted of 20 bicep curls on each arm, pull ups, tricep extensions and bench press from the floor.

 

Sounds pretty advanced.

 

it was, i got laughed at and called a wimp when i refused to do it.

 

You are a major wimp, bicep curls should be done to failure before training, between rounds and after training. It boosts metabolism and improves your chin, footwork and timing.

 

Body building, now that's a waste of time in boxing. Isolating muscles with three to six repetitions of the heaviest weight, wrong move. Weight lifting can be beneficial as long as you stick to what's right; compound movements with moderate weight; fifteen to twenty five repetitions, or more if you're going for endurance.

However, there are ample bodyweight exercises that replicate the same development, and some that work better than any weighted exercise (for instance; planche push up).

 

Another Lol.

Awful, uneducated advice.

 

Don't just say that, educate me. What exactly was wrong with what I said?

 

Not always true. What about going up a weight class? Building muscle would be better than gaining fat.

Isolation should be used to correct imbalances where they exist. High weight, low reps is actually the correct way with the correct lifts.

Compound movements is correct, however, your advice on reps is wrong. You do realise 15 reps is bodybuilding rep range which you said is the wrong thing to do earlier don't you? A boxer should use weights to build power, low reps, high weight, compound movements.

For building power, weight training is pretty much always superior to bodyweight exercises.

 

Okay:

1. Moving up in weight, I'll concede that, even if I don't believe in 'bulking up for the extra cash' - if you notice, generally boxers are less effective in the above weight classes

2. Muscles don't work in isolation. There isn't a single moment in my life where I can imagining performing a bicep curl with perfect form, unless I was curling a weight... Same with calf raises. The largest muscles become too strong for the smaller stability groups.

3. I never said anything about fifteen (to twenty five) repetitions being used for body building. That's for boxing - I'm a big believer in having a balance between strength and endurance, and boxing is certainly a sport that requires endurance. Push ups are better than a 240lbs bench press; power isn't everything.

4. Generally, weight lifting is better for developing true power than bodyweight exercises, yes, but then I never implied the opposite. For overall fitness I believe bodyweight exercises are actually better by a fair margin, however, some harder applications will actually rival weights for power building; one arm pull up, planche etc.

My point: low repetitions of high weights - not good for boxing (too much emphasis on bulk and power, not applicable).

Moderate to high repetitions with moderate weight - good for boxing.

Bodyweight exercises - even better. Clap push ups, one armed push ups, pull ups, squat jumps, one legged squats... Perfect, as they promote agility and flexibility too.

 

How effective they are is irrelevant, nothing to do with weight training.

Do you know what muscle imbalances are? That's when I said to use isolation.

I know you never said that, that's what I'm telling you. The best thing a boxer can gain from weight training is power. Throwing around small weights for 25 reps will not build power.

Niether of the exercises you mentioned help with power. Also, it takes a long time to be able to do either, the payback when you are able to do them is also minimal.

Emphasis on power? Yes. That's the main reason to use weight training. Emphasis on bulk? What, you think you just gain weight without eating more?

Not really. Explain why you say this.

There are many, many exercises you can do using weights that promote agility and flexibility.

 

And you say I'm the one full of ****?

So you'd actually sit there and work on isolating muscles because thus far they're too weak. Which muscles?

Twenty five repetitions won't build power? This is utter shite, seeing as I know at least two people whose maximum bench press has improved doing the 'hundred push up program.' But hang on; it's not all about power. Using medium weights for medium to high repetitions will help you sustain your power rather than it fading quickly.

By the way, I didn't say 'small' weights, I said moderate weights... For me, a moderate weight is my own weight in pull ups, of which I can do about seventeen (dead hang). Oh and by the way, since I restarted exercise, my muscles have grown larger, I feel stronger and I can do more pull ups than I could do before - very beneficial!

Planche push ups and one armed pull ups won't build power? Only weights will... I can't even do a one armed pull up, that's how hard they are. I can barely do a planche push up and that's after I've been working on it for months; are gymnasts not powerful? The planche in particular works muscles you never thought you had and requires tremendous strength whichever way you look at it.

Emphasis on power and bulk; like I said, the emphasis shouldn't be on power, nor on bulk (ideally a fighter stays at his natural weight; at 6ft and 140lbs I, for instance, would want to stay there to make the most of my height and reach advantages) - there are other attributes. Flexibility, balance, endurance and agility are an equally important part of the equation.

Hang on; you think 'moderate to high repetitions with medium weight' is not good for boxing? Remember, endurance and the ability to sustain power.

What could rival the planche? Or squat jumps? Or the one armed pull up? Pull downs on a machine I suppose... Why you'd choose a machine over yourself just for the sake of it is beyond me.

 

Yes, you are full of ****. You're too dense to even see where I'm agreeing with you.

I couldn't be bothered to pick apart another one of your uneducated posts.