How is weights incorporated in Pacquaio's training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bokaj, Mar 5, 2011.


  1. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh yeah, and one more thing: I never gained any kind of muscular size from the body weight stuff, I just didn't have enough of a challenge in the motion to recruit a lot of muscle fibers for growth. I needed the weight attachments to see back and shoulder growth. It just felt light until lactic acid build up just kind of makes you stop doing the motion - purely for endurance, not strength, like taking 80 pounds on the bench press, doing it 50 times, and just hitting a wall. That's what body weight exercises feel like to me.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you can't answer just say so, no need to try and get around it like that. Whether my opinion is right or wrong about those exercise building power or not is irrelevant. You're saying a guy that trains thousands of top level athletes from around the world in pretty much every sport there is is wrong. I may be wrong, but I'm not going against what one of the best in the world recommends.

    So explain why he is wrong.
     
  3. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does anyone on here actually follow the advice that is put up on this site?
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    95% of the "advice" is laughable.
     
  5. I agree some moron once suggested low repetions for abdominal excersizes ;)
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. Just wow. Giving accurate information makes you a moron these days? I never knew that.

    Please post your ab routine so I can laugh at your stupididty again.
     
  7. the thing is you asked me for a source backing up the idea of high repetions for abs yet you never provided in FACTUAL evidence that low reps was just as effective
     
  8. laugh all you want buy i gotta nice 8 pack and in all probabillity your a fat slob with a beer belly
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously I'm a fat slob if I disagree with what you say... We already covered this in the other thread when you were spouting your stupidity. My abs are all visible and I do no direct ab work at all. Try doing heavy deadlifts and squats while sticking to a healthy diet. You carry on wasting your time doing your silly over the top routine. What was it, something like 8 different exercises with around 1000 reps total? :rofl
     
  10. lefty

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    They will help strength which is half the equation of power but only to a very small extent. As we all know punching power is generated mostly from the legs so improving upper body strength would have a comparitively much smaller effect on punching power than improving leg strength. Improving upper body strength would help moreso in terms of clinching, wrestling. Personally I only like to do bodyweight exercises for my upper body and I look like ****ing Roy Jones :D Squats, deadlifts and especially Olympic lifts would help power far more than any of the things you're talking about. And yes you should be doing heavy weight, low reps. There are hormonal reactions to lifting weights and the 15 reps is in bodybuilding territory, you'll get bigger but you won't get the strength benefits of lifting heavy for 1-6 reps. Lifting in that range is optimal for strength gains without as much of the bulking up as 10-15 reps medium heavy. As for endurance, that's what punching a heavy bag is for, it's basically a complete waste of time trying to build endurance for boxing in a weight room.
     
  11. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Try any human physiology book and learn how a muscle works :good
     
  12. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sums it all up. :good
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has this thing about the abs being completely different to every other muscle in the body...
     
  14. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am actually very impressed that he can get motivated for that ****, the quality of his work can't be great. Everyday aswell? **** that, I feel sorry for him, I do about 20 minutes max directly on my abs every second or third day and i'm pretty sure I've told everyone before how great my abs are. The only time girls sleaze on me is when I have my shirt off.
     
  15. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    I use a forum like this to get information. If somebody tells me something contrasting my opinion, I investigate it through research and personal experience. If I am wrong, great, I learned something. But, you have to be humble to learn. Most want to argue their point instead of learning something valuable they can use for themselves.

    I am no authority but I know that I am 100% right when I say that what Virus and Lefty are saying is correct. This is not information that Virus and Lefty are coming up with off the top of their head. There are studies and scientific data to suggest the claims that they are making.