How is Wilder able to get this far with bad technique and little to no boxing fundementals?

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  1. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
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  2. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    This ^

    And he avoided anybody with a pulse for years. He's got about 3 decent wins and 1 good one (Ortiz) ... nothing to write home about when you have a resume as long as Wilder's.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Power! Unlimited power!

    But honestly he's long as hell fast for the division with good stamina and movement. He's also awkward as hell which helps his effectiveness. You also have the power of his that makes some guys think too much when they're in there with him.
     
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    His awkwardness (height, reach, speed) and lack of orthodoxy is what makes him hard to pin down. Add that to his big right hand and you got a conundrum.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    The speed, power and explosiveness of his right hand has the ability to hurt opponents through guard or even with glancing blows.

    He waits his opponents out using his height as defence. He spent 4-5 rounds against Ortiz DOING NOTHING. He tends to do this alot.

    Then when he feels relatively safe he'll time a right hand.

    He is terribly sloppy and a **** boxer but he has somehow done extremely well for himself.

    STILL 38 of his opponents were bums.

    AJ & Fury are tall as him and Wilder won't be able to use his height as an effective defence against them. He will be open and easily exploited.

    He also man handles BODYSLAMS opponents when they are hurt. Pushes them to the canvas - Wlad does this same BS.

    If Ortiz wasn't 150 years old he should have been able to finish Wilder in that round 7.

    IF WILDER HAD ANY BOXING ABILITY HE SHOULD HAVE FINISHED ORTIZ WHEN HE FIRST DROPPED HIM! BUT WILDER DOESNT USE HIS JAB.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He keeps a can of whoopass in his back pocket. When he opens it, opponents fall.
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder rushing in is the reason he was almost finished in round 7. You guys are severely underatting Ortiz...he was winning majority rounds ( actually ) 7 to 2 before stoppage and showed why he's suppose to be a top 3 HW right now.

    Its not just Wilder or Joshua, who else would be favored over Ortiz based on what he displayed?

    Tyson Fury isn't actually boxing, Parker had swiss cheese all around in his abilities still...and who?
     
  8. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's like Prince Hamed before he met Barrera and he'll look like Hamed did fighting Barrera when he meets somebody with good fundamentals and a chin---sort of like what we saw against Ortiz until King Kong faded.
     
  9. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Just have a read through his resume that should tell you all you need to know. He has only now added a top name to that resume and that top name was clearly way past his peak, stalled like a dead battery in those later rounds and outboxed him and nearly stopped him.
     
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  10. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ask AJ about that! How old was Wlad?
     
  11. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Height.
    Reach.
    Speed.
    Power.
    Stamina.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Power, athletic abilty, and a recent penchant for occasionally catching opponents by surprise better than expected punching technique.

    That short counter right that initially hurt Ortiz in the 10th? Pretty well thrown. Ditto the one-two that sent Stiverne sprawling to the mat for the first time in the rematch, as well as the uppercut that clipped Ortiz amidst all that windmilling to end matters on Saturday.

    If you focus entirely on the windmilling, you might find yourself getting caught with the shot that is thrown properly.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    to a degree you have a point, agewise, but lets be honest, comparing neverman Ortiz to long term titlist Wlad is a bit disingenious on your part. No titlist has yet stepped up to the mark to prove themselves THE man. But joshua has done more.

    Especially when you throw in the money and title with wlad, Joshua would be a foooool to turn it down.
     
  14. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This can credit to why a little bit. Actually I’m quite impressed. I’m pretty sure those D lineman hand drills taught him this.

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  15. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He’s fast, athletic and has power. Coupled with the fact he has a very unorthodox style due to his lack of boxing fundamentals it makes him difficult to prepare for. He’s also extremely confident in himself and fights that way. He’s definitely beatable but it will take a big heavyweight with a lot of skills and sharp reflexes to manage the speed of Wilder and capitalize on his defensive flaws to beat him. Joshua and Fury both fit the bill but even then, the power factor is always a factor