HOW LIKELY an ORTIZ WIN?

as likely as a 39 year old noone getting an actual title shot in days gone by.

there is no need for speculating over a fight that shouldnt even be happening.

 

I give him a 30% chance.

 

This. Wilder is much more disciplined and cautious when he faces a puncher. Ortiz's only chance is to cut Wilder off and place some well timed shots to slow Wilder down. However, with Ortiz being 38 I'm always doubtful of an older fighter's has tank.

Stiverne traped Wilder in the corner a few times in the first fight, but failed to time Wilder with any meaningful shots. Ortiz has better mobility and accuracy than Stiverne, so he has a decent chance to win, but Wilder has to be the favorite.

 

55/45, Wilder. He's older and less mobile and may well have trouble tracking Wilder down. But Orize counters well, defends well, and I wonder if his southpaw style will give Deontay some difficulty. Not a really easy fight for me to pick atm.

 

65/35 Wilder. Ortiz has got a chance, but as the fight goes on, I think Wilder will have too much for him and will stop him in the second half of the fight. Tough fight though for both that could go either way. I'm looking forward to it.

 

60/40 Wilder

 

I’m going with 60/40 in Ortiz favour.

Yes Wilder has looked better than Ortiz in their last fights, but if you went back to when Washington and Thompson were their opponents Ortiz looked miles better.

Going with Ortiz out boxing Wilder over 12 rounds. Something like 8 rounds to 4 in Ortiz’s favour.

 

there's a reason wilder and his people chose him not rmthe biggest wilder fan but he do what he do

 

sure, wilder is not on Joshuas Level.........but who is? but the way People are shitting on wilder These days ......he is becoming seriously underrated.
sure, he is a paper Champion, but so is parker. sure he hasnt faced povetkin or Joshua....but who has These days??

it s not like the cuban has been fighting top guns. in fact, wilders competition has been far superior.

to me, wilder is a clear favorite and should win by ko.

 

reading the posts in this thread shows there are a lot of sensible posters on esb

when i read all the threads on this fight/ single world analysis i read over and over ortiz is to old
to slow/ etc etc

i make ortiz the favourite/ wilder has a good chance but people are expecting him to iron out all his flaws and faults in this fight and box a controlled fight from range

until the fight is over and we see what happens that is guesswork

wilder has brittle hands / say they go
its all what ifs with this fight on wilders part
we know pretty much what ortiz brings

what if wilder boxes long
what if wilder hurts his hands
what if wilder hurts ortiz
what if wilder gets hurt

makes it a must watch fight .

 

Wilder could get countered and KO'd by a massive left uppercut

 

Obviously i'm favouring Ortiz, despite the fact his training has been limited because the gym in the old folks home doesn't have a heavy bag or speed balls.

Wilder in his favour has unpredictability. He's unpredictable because he's no idea what the **** he's going to do - so neither does the opponent.

 

Its 5 to 1 at least

 

Fwiw is only the second time I've ever bet on something - and that's because I strongly enough disagree with the local betting odds to place one. Funnily enough the last time was Joseph Parker vs Carlos Takam where the odds were similar to this, I favoured Parker but I thought the fight at the time was much closer than the odds suggested so bet against him.

This time I bet on Luis Ortiz, because imho the odds are so crazy (ie, the fight is practically just a formality for the Wilder win) I didn't need to put much on to potentially get a decent payout so if I lose - meh, if I win, woohoo x2!